So, apparently Bonaventura wanted to cross and not shoot, so even our goal was an accident. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, we all knew it was a cross but we weren't wanting to say it out loud you spoilsport!

He seemed like he was looking at the goal when he took the shot. Weird.

The thing is - what did you expect to happen this season? Milan to improve footballing-wise or result-wise? The letter we did. The first, IMO, comes only with WC players or a coach with immense experience and a system. This is neither our team nor Pippo.

Saying that Pippo is doing worse then Allegri is wrong from my stance. Allegri imposed his mentality, and did unthinkable mistakes: playing players out of position, giving a cold treatment to players who didn't fit or didn't somehow show the qualities he needed. Giving the a 2 minute cameo, like with Dinho or Pippo. But more importantly, Allegri usually lost his plan and then tried changing things in a panic.

Inzaghi is, I believe, under the influence of Ancelotti - more rigid. He has a vision and a plan, and he sticks to it even if it seems he's failing. Is this good? I don't know. Yes, I agree, we all expected more or hoped for more, but I'm not sure it's all about Inzaghi.

We had 3 coaches with different visions, different tactics, different backgrounds and experiences. All failed when it came to taking grasp of the team, team mentality and overall body language of the team. It's quite obvious that this is a long term problem and that Pippo doesn't have a magic wand which could erase the years under Allegri.

And the new poll is here

Honda on the right wing, SES on the left, Menez as false nine, Bona as winger.



Armero hasn't started a single match, Zapata barely plays, Lopez is bizarrely benched.



In his defence he did try to change them. Pippo is swapping like for like and not changing things which aren't working.



Pippo, just sticking to the same formation and repeatedly playing the same players doesn't constitute a plan.

The tactic is the plan - how they move off the ball, how the team counter attacks, how they use the ball in possession. Right now there's zero of this.

Furthermore, off the ball there's a real lack of pressing, and on the ball a lack of urgency.



I'm sure Han and X will rant at me but to 'erase the years under Allegri' means erasing a Scudetto win and CL appearances.

For his faults, and he made many, before it went sour under him it was an acceptable level - and for me the Club's error was not investing in new players when we won the Scudetto. We had a BIG chance there to affirm our authority and improve a decent team with some really good players like Strootman, Pjannic (we were linked to both). Instead we signed the likes of Mexes - a reasonable defender in his day but never an upgrade to someone like Nesta or Silva. Then a season later we got rid of EVERYONE worth a d*mn.

Nah, what we did was fine. We got rid of the wasters like Ibra and Silva who added nothing to the team. Bought in proven Champions like Muntari and Bojan. I still don't understand why that didn't work 'til this day.

I thought it was pretty obvious that it was a cross tbh

What Danny said.

Pippo plays players out of position, it's been one of our main rants so far. Honda as winger is the most obvious one, but also Bonaventura as winger and Menez as false nine.

Secondly, Inzaghi has been giving cold treatment to a few players. Mexes, Armero and Pazzini, to name a few. You know what Pazzini's wife wrote last night on Twitter? "There's no meritocracy at Milan". Indeed, when Pippo keeps playing Muntari or DS while guys like Armero and van Ginkel warm the bench without barely given a chance to prove their worth.

I think we all expected something to change with Pippo taking over. We knew we couldn't become title contenders and play amazing football overnight, but at least some form of progress and new ideas being implemented, a winning spirit and lots of enthusiasm. So far, there have been no such things. We play a horrific, horrific football without ideas, and albeit our players aren't world beaters, we can do better than this! Much better.

SES isn't played out of position. And if you two don't see the difference between playing Emanuelson on AM or SS and Menez being a little bit more central or a left winger, than seriously...I've no words.

The things Pippo does is what every coach does in a certain way and amount. Menez brought goals and good performances as false 9, what else should we expect? Honda? As I said, Zaccheroni mentioned he can play on the right. I still don't think it's that big of a deal.





Van Ginkel and Mexes yes. Especially Mexes. Van Ginkel I cannot judge, because his potential is unknown to me and he still hasn't played much for Milan.

But should Inzaghi really bench MDS? I don't think he was that bad. Armero was signed as a backup, he was rejected by Napoli and failed at West Ham; if Pippo doesn't think he's up to it, I can trust he has good reasons - Armero did fail in the past on few occasions.

And really X-O, you mention Pazzini? Honestly?? I mean, had Pippo been playing Pazzini more, you would have ranted on and on how Inzaghi is insisting on an old and shabby has-been. When was the last time Pazzini scored? How many goals did he score last season after his injury? 2? Perhaps 3?

Again, if you guys think that the mentioned examples are similar to Allegri's relationship with various players, Pippo, Pirlo, Dinho being few of many, what's there to say?


Yes, the club is at fault as well. Agreed here.

But the Scudetto-Allegri-Milan has been erased already. With the key players gone, there's probably only a bit more of it left then of the Maldini Milan. What however lingered on these years is his mentality, his signature, his way of creating the team's visual and mental appearance. If this is to be changed, we need a coach like Bielsa or van Gaal, someone who brings in experience, know-how, a tested and proven system and a set of new ideas. Expecting the mentioned out of Pippo - also in a short time - is very very unrealistic.

I agree that playing Menez as false nine or Bonaventura on the wing isn't as extreme as Emanuelson in attack, but in Allegri's defense he really had no options available other than to completely overhaul his system, which he should have done nevertheless.

But Pippo has the right men in every position, yet he sticks to very questionable decisions. Being an amateur here has nothing to do with it. We're all amateurs for that matter, yet it's simple to see that Honda on the wing doesn't function (I don't care what Zaccheroni says), or that a flat midfield gets us nowhere. Yet so far he has done little to nothing to remedy to these flaws, and that's worrying.

As for Pazzini, you are completely right, but I only brought him as an example. There are already players who are starting to feel cornered and unwanted, so Inzaghi's man management isn't as impeccable as you make it out to be.

Bottom line here is that we can and need to do better than this. The coach has to set the example, the players have to follow. But if Pippo keeps making mistake after mistake in every game without learning anything from them then don't be so surprised that we're all so critical towards him.

I tend to agree here with Filippo.

I'm not all that happy with Pippo and there are many bones that I can pick with him, but anything is better than the last 1 and a half years under Allegri's reign

Pippo needs to just get his head out of his @ss atm, pick the best team, stop playing Muntari in every game, and get us playing some half decent football.

The only thing that reminds me of Allegri atm is the complete lack of tactical plan or ideas. Granted, we're still scoring goals, with the only blank being drawn vs Juve, but very few of them were created through good team plays. That's my biggest problem right now, we're not playing as a team, in fact from the first 2 games to now, I feel like we've regressed in how we play and in the attitude shown by the players

No sh*t, Sherlock. As if the rest of us is asking the moon from Pippo.



In other words, the most important thing.

Ok. I'm not getting involved in this discussion. I obviously don't see things the way you guys do and think there's a lot of nitpicking going on.

We're performing better. I'm definitely seeing a huge improvement in the team, and I think we shall be getting better come June.

I also don't agree on a Honda-centric 4-3-1-2. The whole Inzaghi philosophy is based on not giving a point of reference to the opposition defenders, and if you mark out Honda that's essentially it.

The Ancelotti version worked because the players in the hole where Rui Costa and Kaka. Not Honda.

Yeah Jack, but even if Ancelotti came back and brought with him CR, there would still be complainers.

Truth be told even when we were playing CWC there were those who complained, just goes to show you how difficult it is to coup when the club doesn't join in our discussions at MF.