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post Jul 24 2014, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 24 2014, 08:30 PM) *
Wouldn't I be the 'any other fan' you refer to here given I don't feel forced?

Or do I misunderstand you?

I think he's referring to the bandwagoners who would jump ship rather than feel like they are forced to watch games through the sheer love they have for the club they support.

If I didn't love Milan, it would be easy to start supporting Real or Barca or City or PSG
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post Jul 24 2014, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 24 2014, 08:05 PM) *
I think he's referring to the bandwagoners who would jump ship rather than feel like they are forced to watch games through the sheer love they have for the club they support.

If I didn't love Milan, it would be easy to start supporting Real or Barca or City or PSG


My support for Milan intensified and solidified in 2002 basically at the peak and beginning of the end of the standing of Italian football on a global scale.

I think the semifinal of the CL that season pretty much cemented me as a Rossoneri, and as we've declined since then, my support has never wavered.

I see supporting your team as, within reason, watching/attending out of love whenever wherever it is/you are. No matter what state your team is in.

I've never really felt forced to watch my clubs, I actually enjoy it, no matter how bad we are.

Maybe I'm masochistic.
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post Jul 24 2014, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 24 2014, 09:28 PM) *
My support for Milan intensified and solidified in 2002 basically at the peak and beginning of the end of the standing of Italian football on a global scale.

I think the semifinal of the CL that season pretty much cemented me as a Rossoneri, and as we've declined since then, my support has never wavered.

I see supporting your team as, within reason, watching/attending out of love whenever wherever it is/you are. No matter what state your team is in.

I've never really felt forced to watch my clubs, I actually enjoy it, no matter how bad we are.

Maybe I'm masochistic.

Well, personally speaking, I'll watch every competitive game, no matter what. These last 2 to 3 seasons the football has been horrifying, which made watching the team that I support feel like a chore to me, whereas in the past I used to look forward to each game with so much excitement and enthusiasm. I think that's part of the reason why I irrationally hate Allegri so much. Because he took away the joy of watching Milan play for me.

But staying up until 2 am to watch us half assing a friendly where we'll mostly be playing second string players, atm, is not worth it for me. It's not like there's a new player that we're all excited to see how he fits into the team. Pippo won't even be playing Alex or Menez. So staying up so late to watch Zaccardo, Constant and Bonera running around like headless chickens just doesn't appeal to me atm.

And also, with the way things are going in the transfer market I'm more pessimistic rather than optimistic atm, which is why my passion for Milan is probably at an all time low as well.
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post Jul 24 2014, 10:36 PM
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Alex and Menez could play. Both included on the trip. And seeing Mastour up against a decent team could be well worth it. Ditto the progress in recovery of SES.

There are a few subplots.

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post Jul 25 2014, 01:45 AM
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So, we're losing...
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post Jul 25 2014, 02:55 AM
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3-0 FT...only saw the last minutes but it looks like olympiacos fielded their best team and we have some kids
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post Jul 25 2014, 03:03 AM
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jul 25 2014, 01:55 AM) *
3-0 FT...only saw the last minutes but it looks like olympiacos fielded their best team and we have some kids


We started with Zacccardo, Rami, Bonera, Albertazzi, Poli, Cristanti, Saponara, Pazzo, Niang and SES.

For us to be mauled that badly shows no matter how many times we change the bloody manager, this just isn't going to change until Silvio sells up.

Sure, it wasn't our very best team but then...what is? Right now no one can agree on our best defence, midfield or attack.

The only thing we all concur on is that De Jong is our best player.

We are utterly over run by the Mexes, Pazzos, and Polis of this world. Honest decent pros but a trillion miles off what a Milan should have.

This time last year in this same tournament we got mauled by Man City 5-3. That was a fair reflection of how the season transpired.

This could even worse because we were at least able to score back then. Against a better team!

Woeful. Long, horrible, dark season ahead unless Pippo works a miracle.

PS: he still f*cking plays MDS as RB.
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Albertazzi to blame for the first, though zaccardo lost dominguez
and bonera ( i think) with a HUGE blunder on the second
third was a wonder goal, nothing to do
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post Jul 25 2014, 03:06 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 24 2014, 11:03 PM) *
We started with Zacccardo, Rami, Bonera, Albertazzi, Poli, Cristanti, Saponara, Pazzo, Niang and SES.

For us to be mauled that badly shows no matter how many times we change the bloody manager, this just isn't going to change until Silvio sells up.

Sure, it wasn't our very best team but then...what is? Right now no one can agree on our best defence, midfield or attack.

The only thing we all concur on is that De Jong is our best player.

We are utterly over run by the Mexes, Pazzos, and Polis of this world. Honest decent pros but a trillion miles off what a Milan should have.

This time last year in this same tournament we got mauled by Man City 5-3. That was a fair reflection of how the season transpired.

This could even worse because we were at least able to score back then. Against a better team!

Woeful. Long, horrible, dark season ahead unless Pippo works a miracle.

PS: he still f*cking plays MDS as RB.

I don't know how you came up with this list... I dare you to isolate any aspect that englobes Pazzo, Poli and Mexes...
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post Jul 25 2014, 03:08 AM
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You might want to read the sentence after it. That'd help.
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post Jul 25 2014, 03:09 AM
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jul 25 2014, 02:03 AM) *
Albertazzi to blame for the first, though zaccardo lost dominguez
and bonera ( i think) with a HUGE blunder on the second
third was a wonder goal, nothing to do


You didn't watch the match for God's sake, how can you form an opinion on the result?!
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post Jul 25 2014, 04:51 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 24 2014, 11:08 PM) *
You might want to read the sentence after it. That'd help.

so, to be sure, they are the problem?

QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 24 2014, 11:09 PM) *
You didn't watch the match for God's sake, how can you form an opinion on the result?!

Most of the highlights i watch, or for that matter most highlights in general show the goals...

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post Jul 25 2014, 07:36 AM
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Naah, I don't think it's that alarming yet. They're in better form and started with a full team.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 24 2014, 11:28 PM) *
My support for Milan intensified and solidified in 2002 basically at the peak and beginning of the end of the standing of Italian football on a global scale.

I think the semifinal of the CL that season pretty much cemented me as a Rossoneri, and as we've declined since then, my support has never wavered.

I see supporting your team as, within reason, watching/attending out of love whenever wherever it is/you are. No matter what state your team is in.

I've never really felt forced to watch my clubs, I actually enjoy it, no matter how bad we are.

Maybe I'm masochistic.

No, you're a true fan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)
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post Jul 25 2014, 08:10 AM
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Have not watched the game or the goals, but looking at that starting line-up vs a full strength side (not a bad side by any stretch either), it was bound to happen.

Bonera and Zaccardo are probably the biggest defensive liabilities in this league, Albertazzi never convinced me, I don't get why we brought him back from Verona.

As for the midfield, that was bound to get run over, Poli is the only one in there capable of doing any actual running and defensive work. Cristante strikes me as a bit of light weight, that's why I've said over and over that we should loan him out as he's just not ready yet, Saponara is just not a CM and it's a mistake to play him there imo. At least with Honda it makes more sense because he's a great passer and more experienced.

SES, Pazzo and Niang upfront... Pazzo seems like he won't ever get his touch back after that surgery. SES is still looking rusty from the friendlies I saw previous to this one so I can't imagine that anything about that changed and Niang... Well there are just no words to describe how bad he is imo.

That being said, let's not all get in a tizzy over a friendly, this is the exact reason why I chose to get an actual good night's sleep instead of staying up until some ungodly hour to watch this cr@p
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