http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2...-place-his.html

Interesting article !

Glad hes so young he still has plenty of time ! its on his side and hes lucky it still is at 24 years old he can still accomplish many things.

I remember going to go watch him at the emirates stadium Brazil vs Sweden where he scored his first senior goal for the national team a player on the rise. I hope he can come back to his best he still has two or three world cups to attend!

This post has been edited by Ry4n: Jun 28 2014, 09:13 AM

Curiously the Independent does a very similar piece.

Coincidence?

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...to-9569561.html

Maybe as a fan! In 3 World Cups time he'd be 36, even 32 is probably pushing it when Brazil have so much talent available. Russia is his last hope IMO.

If Pato could get his head right, his body right, the guy has the tools to be as good as Suarez.

Unfortunately like Suarez he's mentally unstable.

I don't think Pato is mentally unstable hes just lost his way , would you say Bentley is mentally unstable he just lost the love of the game. Substituting drink for football. Suarez going to see a shrink would not change him.

Are we really now going to be making assumptions on the mental state of every player who has difficulties?

Pato never bit anyone and imo has always been a very correct player on the pitch and as far as I know never had any behavioural issues.

His problems were always with his body as it gave up on him

Just the ones who show mental instabilities.



No, he's just incredibly stupid and let his vices control his career. Then when back in Brazil got RPOTY for being such a waster.

Can't actually understand why you're bringing up 'biting' issues as the only pre-requisite for mental instability. I don't recall Stan Collymore biting anyone either but the guy is a true nutjob.



Both, actually.

No, Bentley suffered the ignominy of being too hyped at too young an age. He lost the love of the game because it stopped loving him. Quite different to Pato who made about 400 mistakes in his career and it's why he is where he is.

Nice guy, just incredibly stupid and volatile.

Hmm i would swap your wording using the word volatile seems to think he had huge problems. Which he did off the pitch but thats only when things started to get even worse on the pitch i.e form injuries.

If Brazil keep Fred and Jo, Pato has a future there most definitively. In fact, I'd prefer him even today over the two mentioned players. The Brazil of the past - surely would have forgotten Pato easily. But there ain't so much real talent in attack these days, times changed.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) no, Pato never bit anyone.

But you fail to see his other side. I've pointed to problems when years ago he decided to rush into a marriage and then ended it dramatically. Afterwards he went on to show that his immaturity isn't just passable. There were and still are rumors that he's embraced a party-style life, that he's taking it way too casual (missed penalties for example). He dated Barbara Berlusconi which wasn't very good per se as well.

So yes, the biggest problems were the injuries. But there's also a pattern of juvenility and immature behavior - which also indicates mental problems, problems with accepting his status and his potential. He's sinking lower and lower these days, and I'm not gonna say it's all injuries and nothing else.

I mentioned biting because just like with Suarez you're bringing in mental heath issues into the discussion with no basis for your theories. It was a tongue in cheek type comment


Sure, he's gone down the usual route Brazilians go down in. Only he did it earlier than most before he actually accomplished anything.

But does that mean he has mental issues FFS? Yes he was juvenile, but let's not forget that we signed him when he was just 17. At that age and slightly older we are all bound to make stupid mistakes, especially in our personal lives when we have money and fame to back it up

Not mental issues but a weak character and problems with mentality.

Errrr mental health? Don't recall saying Pato had issues with mental health? Being mentally unstable is not having a mental health issue. Suarez has both.

You know, your refusal to ever focus on potential psychological issues and the instant dismissal of them when, for example, depression is the most common illness in the UK suggests you have a total blind spot to their relevance.

Just because someone posits a reason based on observational data doesn't make the diagnosis wrong and 'baseless'.

Please stop arrogantly rejecting the theories just because you don't believe they have evidential support.

Many would argue mental issues are the same as a problem with mentality (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

But I'd agree, it's his conduct and immaturity, foolish errors, mistakes and misguided actions that led to his downfall.

He's not mentally ill that I know of, unless he has depression or anxiety, of course, both mental illnesses, but he certainly has psychological issues.

Which are extremely common.

Saying someone is "mentally unstable" is usually one step away from saying someone is crazy imo

Having psychological issues that effect your performance is totally different to saying someone is mentally unstable, at least for me, this is the case.

And I'm sorry, unless Suarez is proven to be "mentally unstable" any theories of the sort are without basis. His biting is pre-meditated, not impulsive. And that's imo proven by the way he tried to make it look like an accident before, during and after the biting took place. As well as how he's explained himself away