That was really great indeed.

That really was rather good.

People from Birmingham know their stuff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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I understand why Terry decided to retire after this but how do you know the civil court was right and FA was wrong?


I just watched that and came here to post it. I didn't know of this guy before this show but I'm glad I do now, it's great!

I think it's pretty irrelevant in a way. When you go to court and have experts try you on something, if they find you innocent, that's the law. If some other organisation decides to then try you on the same thing and finds you guilty on something you are, officially, innocent of then it looks like they were just out to get you from the start.

thanks for posting kurt

It doesn't matter. The double jeopardy thing should protect him.

I don't think it is irrelevant. It's like with Sterling. It's an entirely different issue of course I'm just referring to the fact that every company has its own rules and should be able to look at everything internally. Sterling didn't do anything illegal yet he was forced out of the league. Or let's say you're an NFL player in Denver. State laws allow you to smoke weed freely but the NFL doesn't.


That doesn't have anything to do there, he wasn't tried by another civil court, he was tried by the governing body to which his company belongs and could only have been punished within its boundaries, the FA can't sent him to jail or anything.

I really don't get this. I don't know of any England supporter who wouldn't want John Terry in there instead of Jagielka. Yet the FA are conspiring against him to keep him out of the team?

You know, going by Terry's history I wouldn't be surprised if he's dead guilty.

There's no Rio anymore on the England team so that's not an angle that can be played really. I've heard that the other England players don't really like him though, especially after the ego-fest in S. Africa about the captaincy.

And I personally believe the FA as an organization would have preferred to have Terry in there as he increases England's chances of success, and that is what they ultimately want for their nation.

Terry was found not guilty by a tribunal/court regarding that alleged racism of Ashley Cole. That court was set up by the FA.

The FA have the axe to grind with Terry - he'd gladly play for England again. But he can't with the current climate.

With this example you're missing the point. John Terry was found innocent for something that he was then found guilty for. It wasn't a case of there being different rules in public and in the Premier League. Your point is an example where the rules are different within each, but that's not the case here.

What would be a better comparison is being an NFL player in a state were smoking weed is illegal, that player being found innocent by the courts and then the NFL holding their own inquiry and finding said player guilty and stopping him from player. It is taking the law into their own hands.

To me what the court says, goes. What next? Say Aaron Hernandez gets off his murder charge, are the NFL going to try him, find him guilty and sentence him to death? What happens at the courts is final and that should always be the case.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Jun 10 2014, 03:19 PM

According to Mediaset, this is how Italy will play against England (brace yourself, Han):

Buffon; Darmian, Barzagli, Chiellini, De Sciglio; Pirlo, De Rossi, Verratti, Marchisio, Candreva; Balotelli.

So, he brings five forwards and only plays one. Makes sense. And seriously, Darmian?

I personally don't believe for a second that he will drop Abate. Darmian was a bit catastrophic the other night against Fluminense.

Candreva though... I do believe - with massive foreboding - the he will start. For some reason only known to Prandelli, he likes this guy. Pepe was f@cking better than him FFS!

Still, I think from now till Saturday the journalists are just pulling cr@p out of their @sses big time.

I think it will be:

Buffon; Abate, Barzagli, Chiellini, De Sciglio; Pirlo, De Rossi, Verratti, Marchisio, Candreva/Cassano; Balotelli.

The only real question mark is Cassano or Candreva. I'll tear some hair out if it's the latter.

That lineup is a list of random players, there's no system at all.