...I'm basically speechless. I didn't get to take the game in properly as I was in work at the time, but I'm not sure I can manage to re-watch it now knowing the outcome.

After Kaka scored I thought we had some sort of chance. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Boy was I ever wrong! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)




This post has been edited by TriniKing_CE: Mar 13 2014, 12:11 AM

Look at the AC Milan team that we have today:

I may be totally wrong, but I don't see a squad that is inferior to that of teams that are doing better than us.

Man by man we are better than a lot of teams that do a lot better than us.

Look at our starting lineup and to several of our bench players:

They all come from teams that are playing better than us. They haven't arrived from 3rd division teams.

What I can clearly see in our team is that our players are suffering a mental breakdown. A total lack of confidence.

There's an absence of the AC MILAN MYSTICISM.

Our team is not playing like a team. It's like they think the the shirt will win the matches for them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that with this team we can win the CL. We can CAN DO A LOT BETTER!!!

People complain that our team is still old, and with relatively old teams we have won CL.

I think that we need a good psychiatrist and a very good psychologist.

For instance: Take a look at Pirlo. Ironically he was too old for us to sign, AC Milan wasn't doing well ... and look at him and his team.

OUR PROBLEM IS MENTAL AND WE NEED SOMEBODY TO STEP UP A CHANGE THE PLAYERS MENTALITY.

THE ROSSONERO SHIRT HAS A LOT OF WEIGHT AND NOT ALL PLAYERS ARE ABLE TO CARRY IT.

Seedorf just started, but we need somebody like Capello.

However, I may be totally wrong..........

Another thing...

The way we are playing, I'd throw Petagna in right away!!! He is a young player, proud to wear the red and black shirt, he's hungry, powerful, with a lot of potential .......... let the kid play!!!!!!

There's no excuse ... we are not going to lose anything ... we are already lost!!!!!!!!!

Nice posts Panama Devil...

Shame you're not a regular member around here!

I agree with a lot of what you said, but I stand firm on the opinion that we also need more reinforcements.

Whether these reinforcements come in the form of young bloods that are ready & willing to show their worth, or well established players who are still capable of playing at a high level, we need some transfers! (both arrivals & departures).

The Zaccardo's, Muntari's and Bonera's etc etc are not needed and I don't think we are being greedy or unrealistic by stating this.

It's not just a matter of wanting the established WC players or young exciting prospects. Some of these guys are average at best, and it's reflected in the way they play consistently (not just this season) but throughout their careers.

...and it now shows in our league position as well (a very average 10th place)! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


But no, like I said earlier, I agree with your assessment that a lot of our issues were (are) a mental thing. In fact I'm sure a lot of guys on here (and most Milan fans) for that matter will also agree. We have lost confidence, and we have been living in the past on glories from the years gone by. Under Alegri this was most prominent.

It has improved somewhat since Seedorf's arrival, and his philosophy does seem fairly logical, so I'm slightly optimistic, but definitely concerned.

After all, the results are still not coming in as we'd hope for, but then again, he's been performing a lot of trial & error so it's a bit expected.

Finger crossed that if he stays on as our coach, he can figure out the winning formula before the start of next season along with one or two new faces, and a few (overdue) departures.

and hopefully, our (likely to be...) lack of European football next season doesn't hamper whatever little chances we have of attracting that talent! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

This post has been edited by TriniKing_CE: Mar 13 2014, 01:37 AM

I don't think "Milan class" is a thing.

Let's just be practical. Players are players. Coaches are coaches. There's no special milan star in the sky that the players aren't looking at.

Here's some cold facts:

- Milan remains among the top 16 teams in Europe.
- Milan is among the bottom half of these top 16.
- We have a few world class players: Balotelli, Kaká.
- We have a few arguably great players, who in the least are considered for their NT: Abate, Montolivo, Rami, De Sciglio, De Jong, Poli, Taarabt, Pazzini.

That's what we have to work with. That, and a few promising primavera.

All the rest, in my opinion, is not up to par if we want to compete in Italy and Europe. Emanuelson, Essien, Abbiati, Bonera, Zapata, and even it pains me, Robinho, are not up to snuff.

If Seedorf wants to get the team back on track, it takes time. And proper reinforcements. Not "Milan class", not some sort of magical attitude, not Sacchi/Boban or whoever to motivate the players.

I truly like what Seedorf is doing. What we did against Juve and Atletico (in the first half) are glimpses. I think the man deserves at least the rest of this season and the next one.

But the team needs to me improved. And that's that.

Taraabt arguably great? Dude couldn't get into the Fulham or QPR team...

arguably
adverb
1.
it may be argued (used to qualify the statement of an opinion or belief).

Not to pick a fight Kurt: surely you must admit Taarabt has played rather decently for us the short while he's been here?

This post has been edited by Linkman: Mar 13 2014, 05:28 AM

Yeah, he's been decent. He's in no way great and never will be, unfortunately he believes himself that he's a World class player so his big head will always get in his way.

I totally agree, let's see what this kid is really made of.....what's to lose? since mario and pazzo are carrying niggling injuries and aren't exactly in any inspiring form at the moment.

‘Seedorf doesn’t see limitations’
By Football Italia staff

Former Juventus midfielder Alessio Tacchinardi believes Milan Coach Clarence Seedorf has not recognised the limitations of his squad.

The 38-year-old is also disappointed by Mario Balotelli and thinks the Rossoneri appear physically and mentally tired.

“Nothing much is certain at Milan at the moment,” Tacchinardi said to Sky Sport. “I don’t know where they can start rebuilding from.

“Seedorf has tried to inject enthusiasm into the team but it has not been enough.

“He was a great player but at the moment I’m not sure whether he realises the limitations of this team.

“They are in great difficulty, physically and mentally.

“As for Balotelli, he isn’t a kid anymore. Milan took him because they hoped he could help the team and that he could become a leader.

“He is also lacking tactically on the pitch, he can’t play as a lone striker.”

First of all, thank you for this post :-)

No, you are not wrong. Yes, I agree we are far from the team we used to be, and I agree that we have serious problems. However, if you look at potential based on the quality our squad, we are not all that far behind Juve, we are close to the other Serie A leaders, and better than most other teams in our league. In other words, we are under-performing. Or biggest problem is not the quality of the individual players, but rather the fact they still play as individuals and not as a team, and they fall apart when the game goes the wrong way. So, yes, a large part of the problem is mentality and/or motivation and/or morale, and AFAIAC that has a lot to do with the coach.

Not convinced that picking Seedorf was the right move, but I am fully convinced that sacking the clown was long overdue. At least we now have a new direction and a style of play that has more potential for both entertainment and success that what we had (or did not have) with the clown. We have yet to see this potential translate into results, and if we do not start getting results soon we are unlikely to get past our mental problems. OTOH, at least we have a change, and if Seedorf is going to fail I would rather we find out about it sooner rather than later.

Yea, I agree there need to be some serious changes in the squad. Realistically, we know we do not have the funds to get top talent, and I am tired of "have beens" and "mental cases". So we need to get rid of the misfits and invest in promising youth (even if that will cost) and, once we have them, we need a coach that will have the guts to play them. Not sure if all of this will happen, though (last few years have been rather disappointing). The only thing that gives me a little hope is having a coach with a game-plan that will hopefully look for quality rather than asking for more "muscle-midfielders" and "Cagliari have beens".

Quoting Prandelli (source: <http://www.goal.com/it/news/2/serie-a/2014/03/12/4679154/linea-prandelli-per-i-mondiali-tutti-sotto-esame-milan-ko?ICID=AR_RA_1>): "Il Milan non è un disastro, - ha assicurato - si sono date troppe aspettative ad una squadra che si sta modificando, che sta trovando un nuovo assetto per riorganizzarsi per un nuovo futuro. Non guardo ai risultati ma alla qualità della persona e Seedorf di idee ne ha tante".

Key points: "the team that is in a transition phase" and "I do not look at results, but at the quality of the person, and Seedorf has lots of ideas"

Says the person who considers Parolo, Giaccherini and Candreva azzurri-worthy. F*ck off, Prandelli! You're in the same mold of Allegri.

He's better, I give him more credit.