Yeah, han, what? It's gonna be the other way around. SES + cash for Pastore.

Certainly. Who is SES? He's only played like, what, 4 months of good football?

He's a glorified bench warmer for them, while SES is a highly rated young player who teams offered over 30m for this summer. So yes, no matter how much you think Pastore is better, SES has more value on the market atm

I'm pretty sure he would have been sold if an offer of 20m was made in the summer. I certainly don't believe an offer of 30m was made.

There was, Galliani and SES talked about it themselves

Pastore has proven creativity, Shaarawy can't even dribble correctly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) A direct swap would be a surprise. If we do hand him over, it will have to be with a bag of gold. Maybe the kid does pick up his game, then he can be a better player than Pastore, but right now there is no comparison.

It's like asking Oscar plus cash for the Pharaoh, which in most realities is just not on! My humble $0.02.

The fact that he can't dribble has nothing to do with this

SES is a striker plain and simple, Pastore is an AM. Absolutely NO comparison between the 2

And as I said, Pastore atm has a low market value, why? Because he's been permanently benched at PSG. SES atm is a hot commodity no matter how much some here under value him because he lost form last season, meaning he wasn't scoring goals, and for a striker that's a killer, especially when said striker is being played out wide and his weaknesses as a player become even more visible.

Just read some stuff out there and see what the general football fan who doesn't watch Milan on a regular basis thinks and you'll know why a club would want to pay a lot for SES right now

Well, that was just used as a pointer, because really Shaarawy has little going for him at the moment. Limited in technique, played out of his comfort zone, injuries, coupled with the arrival of big names like Balotelli (who himself seems to be suffering from this last disease) and Kaka, and more incoming next windows.

And honestly, by some quality dribbling the guy can get some of his confidence back, beat opponent defenders and score some goals or provide some assists. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) His cupboard is bare. Pato was limited, this guy is underdeveloped. Not to mention the conditions are not helping.


Direct comparison, no, but he both have certain similarities going for them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Age, hype, some proven records, both play for big clubs, and both are attackers that can potentially directly influence results. Plus, I'd have to think really hard to label Shaarawy a striker nowadays, even if he made his name in that position. He's just a forward.


I guess that depends, we do not have market details, few do actually. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Sitting at a bench does not guarantee a player has devalued to such an extent. Shaarawy at best is currently a 20m buy, Pastore a 30m. Maybe we can nudge back another 5m, but that just seems to be about it.

And that's considering Shaarawy is not opened up further throughout the course of the season. If so, he'll just devalue further down to 18m or below. For this reason alone, I want to see the kid play and play regularly. Just so we can better judge what he is made of. Maybe even forge an attacking partnership with Kaka.


Well general football fans think and know a lot of things. No disrespect intended but more than half of them (personally speaking here, the people I have come in contact with) are idiots. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) A knowledgeable and passionate supporter is not, but the majority just buy what the media tells them and spit it out at random.

That doesn't mean anything. The fact that it's Galliani makes it even more dubious. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I just don't believe we'd turn down a 30m offer for SES, no way.

They didn't. They accepted like always and "left it to the player". SES wanted to stay at all costs. He is a Milan fan since childhood. It's a bit of a different story than Ibra, Silva, Kaka and Sheva, even though all those love Milan. Being a diehard Milan fan made the difference this time.

I have some good news.

Berlusconi is having a meeting with the board and deciding our approach for next year.


Galliani could have a lesser role at the club especially in transfers. They've contacted Maldini for a director position. I hope he accepts. Barbara will take a bigger role starting next season.


It looks like allegri will be sacked after chievo game with Denis Mangia coming into replace him.

sky

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Nov 4 2013, 09:05 PM

Milan Vice-President Adriano Galliani has assured boss Massimiliano Allegri that his job is safe.

The tactician’s future has again been placed into doubt as the club’s problematic season took another unsavoury twist with a 2-0 defeat to Fiorentina on Saturday.

“There is faith in Allegri – he is not the problem,” the official stated this afternoon.

“All Coaches depend on results, but this is not a decisive week for him. If someone keeps losing then there is no one who can survive that.

“This is certainly a difficult moment because we are not picking up results, but we will carry on. From experience I say that we should remain calm.”

Milan, with just three League wins this season, will face Barcelona and Chievo over the next seven days.

Galliani was also asked to respond to Barbara Berlusconi’s request that there be a change in philosophy at the club owned by her father Silvio.

“I certainly spoke with Silvio Berlusconi last night, but I won’t comment on what we said,” Galliani added.

“The CEO is responsible for everything, the transfer market, the revenue, all of the costs. He’s in charge of the whole company.”

Yes let's keep assuring the underperforming employee that his job is safe FFS!! This is business 101 for the idiots.

It's like you have a restaurant and all the waiter does is mess orders up, spill sh!t on the customers and drop things. Why yes, let's give him a promotion and job security! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Heh, I wouldn't mind Mangia at all. But why after the Chievo game? Anyway, I think it's bullshit. Only another loss against Barça could change things.

Mangia? What has he ever done to being considered? Just another Allegri.