I find this "I hate SES" trend going on right now on this forum seriously strange. I'm not a huge fan of his, but all this hate makes me want to stand up for the kid.

I don't think we'll sell him, not this winter. And certainly not for 20m considering we got a 30m+ offer for him in the summer.

We've only seen a seriously small fraction of what SES can do, let's give him a chance to play a full season or 2 before making such harsh judgments

I don't think anyone hates him. But he is overrated.

Well, speaking for myself, I don't really hate anything, let along someone like El Shaarawy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Though like you, I am not a fan of his, Han, and think of him as a good prospect that we plucked out of Serie B. What I do know is that he's just another golden goose that Galliani will take to the sacrifice temple, if he gets the right amount of $$$.

What I do also know is that the guy is not improving upon his game, one bit. Not even half as good as Pato to begin with, and while the duck too stalled, Shaarway is just standing on a standstill right now, and he is not even as developed as the Brazilian we recently offloaded.

You prospects, particularly strikers, have to improve their overall game, constantly and consistently.

Oh yeah, and that too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Everything and everyone can be overrated, in capacities large or small. El Shaarawy is massively overrated in this respect. FIFA 14 cover, you have got to be kidding me. I thought one had to be a good player before something like this, and all his other promotional endeavors.

Just show the results on the pitch on a constant basis, and then he can be rated normally, or even underrated. But right now, he is just hyped up, and the kid is doing little (also not helped by the coach) to improve.

Beautifully put.

I don't think he is, certainly not when compared to other young players his age, obviously when you're top scorer of a top club in your first season playing as a starter for that club - a club that would have sunk to the lowest of lows had he not stepped up btw - there will be a certain level of hype surrounding that young player


I don't think you can say whether or not he's at a stand still, yes his form took a massive dip last season, every player goes through that now and then, but I don't think you can say he's at a standstill because we have not seen anything from him as of yet this season. I mean if he's in his 3rd full season with us as a starter and he's still at that level he was at last season then yes, you can say he's hit a brick wall, but I don't think it's a fair thing to say as of yet

I have seen moments that confirm this, but I wouldn't mind giving him more time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But my honest advise is that don't cry for him Argentina, because if an offer comes Galliani will personally wrap and ship Shaarawy. An offer, as in something that touches 25 to 30 million. That's what kind of a character he is.

But until he is here, most I am sure, will stand by him and see what kind of an effort he puts. I don't fault his athletic work and defensive duties that he does, and he is wasted there at the wing, but you have got to take what comes your way. Pato and Huntelaar (remember that guy) did before him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Let's wait and see, then, wait and see.

Pato (before we ruined him that is) was an amazing dribbler who was seriously quick, remember that amazing goal against Roma? He could have played anywhere in attack. The Huntelaar experiment was just ridiculous and really, he didn't take what came his way as he was (unsurprisingly) awful on the wing.

And I've said this multiple times, if a ridiculous offer came our way, I'd gift wrap him myself, as realistically, atm he's not worth more than 20m max, but if say something over 30m came our way (as Galliani hinted of happening this past summer) then yeah, obviously I'd offload him because in a sane market, he'd never be worth that amount

I think there might be clubs who would offer 20-22 million for El Shaa right now. You know what I would do? Sell him for that amount and sign Shaqiri. Now he is a real promise with huge margins of improvement. And he'd be perfect for 4-2-3-1.

Naah, I wouldn't go for it.

That's so typical of you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Maybe. But: 1) I don't see Shaqiri leaving Bayern, 2) I don't want wingers, 3) I'm not that sure he's worth it - don't get me wrong, Shaqiri is a good player and overall promising. But when I look at him playing, something's missing.

OK, I understand your doubts regarding Shaqiri, but you don't want wingers? Does this mean you want us to play with 4-3-1-2? Because, honestly, I think this team needs an injection of fresh and innovative ideas, and adopting a formation with wingers is the very first step in doing so.

22m for SES?

No, wouldn't go for it. I'd rather give him a chance then sell him for that amount.

According to latest reports, there is a possibility of Niang going to Genoa in January and either Lodi or Kucka going the other way.

Seriously, Lodi? He's sooooo mediocre. I'd get Kucka any day of the week instead.