Club is a joke from top to bottom.

The "best" individual at our club is somebody who most clubs wouldn't go anywhere near because calling him a retard is an insult to retards.

I sort of understand Poli being taken off. The truth is, he himself is coming out of an injury, and he is our only creative mid-fielder left. With our upcoming set of matches, we need him to stay fit and available. Plus he was on a yellow. On the other hand, Muntari is replaceable. Let him play the full 90. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm not as disappointed with the loss today. We played with something approaching fluency. I would rather a defeat like this than the draw we saw against Torino. At least the players there showed something.

Not too much to fault Allegri over, since he did start with our best possible 11. I'm with kurt in saying the quality of this team is just plain poor. We have only player in this current lineup with any sort of technique and that's Balotelli. All the rest are side-show players. Even Poli is good at making a pass here and there, but he is no Seedorf is he?

Reina had a good game and his mistakes were not punished. All in all, if we can keep this growth(from our previous game in Torino to now), we might be able to still be in the running for CL places.

It's called passion. You wouldn't know about it as you are possibly the most soulless entity in existence.

Balotelli showed so much PASSION for our team and you have the nerve to call him retarded? The mental strength required to keep plugging away....especially after the missed penalty and the extreme battering he got all game long???

Yes he's arrogant, a bit of a **** and his blood runs close to his skin...but if you can take that heroic performance today and still insult him then you urgently need to


GTFO

Since 2011, this club has undergone a lot of change, the same takes time for rebuilding a squad from its core. Or, you could do a City, PSG or Monaco and buy all the top players you can get. I have been saying this for a long time, patience is needed, as the club needs time. Hence I wouldn't look too closely at the results, as I don't expect much.

As for the best individual, I agree, he is a HUGE liability yet comes with IMMENSE potential. retarded is a bit far fetched, as he needs brilliance to deliver the goods as he has done thus far. Then again, we wouldn't be able to afford him had he not been such a hot potato to deal with in the first place.

Ah, that "I'm more of a fan than you are" bullshit again? YOU need to


GTFO

Aite chill out dru. You're starting that better fan than I nonsense. We don't need to start prick measurement again on our love for Milan, so drop it.

And really, you shouldn't be telling people to leave. On this forum some of our best posters are and used to be people who have other local clubs they support.

We only played with more fluency because Napoli were wide open and there for the taking. Let's watch us regress back to the usual eyesore against Bologna when we have to break through a team that's defending with 10 behind the ball and countering our stupid @sses. It will be Verona and Torino all over again. We're just completely clueless.

And I'm sorry, but the quality of the squad is still good, especially for Serie A. There should be no excuses as to why we're not beating the likes of Verona, Torino and Celtic comfortably. Napoli are pretty much level with us in terms of quality. We have a better defence than them yet they're playing great football, they're beating Dortmund in the CL when we needed lady luck to step in to help us out against Celtic.

And how can you NOT blame Allegri for today as well? ONCE AGAIN we concede from a set-piece. How many times do we have to concede off of these to finally learn how to defend them? It's just mind boggling and Sunday league team level stuff and this comes down to coaching and drills during the week.

No Poli is not Seedorf but he's better than the Seedorf who played for us in his final years. Let's not kid ourselves. You want the Seedorf who could barely bother to jog 90% of the time? Poli is putting in some great performances, to discount them is rather daft.

This team has 5 (6 if Poli is called up) Azzurri players in it, players who got to the finals of the EUROs and are expected to do well at the upcoming WC, plus other very good players. To say that it's just Balo and bit-part players is an insult. The bit-part players are guys like Muntari and Birsa who are starting FFS. How can you say that it was a good line-up when he had Nocerino and Robinho on the bench who could have started instead of them?? And I know Nocerino is struggling big-time atm, but nothing is as bad as what Muntari is currently offering on that pitch, yet he's playing 90 minutes in every game.

To be honest, you're relying too much on hindsight here.

Allegri's starting 11 was the best he could put out. Muntari over Noce before the game performance was a shoo-in. Nocerino has been beyond terrible. The only reason he looked good last night, was he came on in the end to tired legs, and Napoli packing men behind hoping to hold the lead. He got plenty of the ball and was rarely rushed. Muntari had a much harder shift, not that he covered himself with glory. Robinho has been terrible. We saw it in the last game. Birsa was very decent in the game against Torino. And he was good again yesterday. He's just not THAT good. But that's the point I'm trying to make. Except for Balotelli and maybe Montolivo on the rare occasion, we have no one in the team who is THAT good.

Poli is a bit part player in the Azzuri. In fact except for Abate (depending on the formation) and Balotelli, the rest of our squad who started yesterday are all bit-part players.

Napoli and we are on the same level if we have our full strength team available. We didn't. This was our second string side, and we fell to a 2-1 loss, where they pretty much rode their luck a lot.

I still stand by my statement. I'd rather lose to Napoli like yesterday than draw to Torino like last weekend.

Agreed. I think the club does need time to change, but sometimes it's hard to accept what is being said at the very top. If it was a case of us offloading wages to balance things out and get going again it's fine, but then the decisions they make regarding transfers don't make sense.

Yes Kaka' was free, but his wages aren't exactly small and he's 31. Matri is a player I like, but again, his wages aren't small and he took up about 90% of our transfer budget - he's nearly 30 himself.

Balotelli is massively frustrating, he feels like a red card waiting to happen most games and we can't really afford that.

@Mods, how many more warnings does Dru get? I didn't even mention him and he goes off now! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Oh I'm sorry....didn't know it was cool to insult Balo by calling him retarded for showing some bloody passion

Oh and abandoning the team cause we're cr@p now is fine as well

Gotcha (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Says the guy that insults the coach on a regular basis. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

From my entire post there is nothing which is in hindsight. The set-piece issue has been there for years now under Allegri yet it's never been addressed, this season it seems to have gotten even worse.

Regarding the players. No I didn't need any hindsight to know that Muntari would be the biggest liability on the pitch or that Birsa couldn't cut it as a starter, especially not in our attack. Why? Because we saw the same thing against Celtic and Torino! Like I said, Nocerino isn't going through his best moment but he'd never be the liability that Muntari is, and Robinho actually opened up our game a lot, both against Celtic and yesterday when he came on, to play Birsa ahead of him as someone who'll start as the fake AM is simply stupid. These are things that anyone who's watched Milan so far this season could easily foresee happening, yet here we are continually discussing them because our "coach" continually insists on these things even if they aren't working.

The subs yesterday were simply appalling. He just has no clue on how to manage this team properly. And no, we weren't playing with mostly bit part players yesterday. From our starting 11 we were missing; SES, Monto, DS and Kaka. Yes important players, but even more so then Benitez for example who, if situations were reversed and he'd lost Insigne, Hamsik and Zuniga for example, he doesn't have the luxury Allegri has with the squad we have. Robinho is still a good player to put on and is a luxury that most teams don't have, yet he picks Brisa, the Torino bench player ahead of him. Monto goes down , we have Poli, SES and Pazzini out we have Matri. Allegri has a very deep squad, and even with all these injuries he can field a side that is better than 90% of every other Serie A side and the teams we're facing in the CL (Barca aside). Yet, every time it's the same BS with the formation, line-up and system. How do you expect the team to improve and grow as the season goes along when the coach simply has no clue what he is doing? Had we had everyone available yesterday we still would have conceded those 2 cheap goals simply because our defending as a unit is absolutely cr@p

Btw, from our entire squad we have players which are THAT good or those who are just good, but still better than most in this league. Abate and DS are easily the best FB pairing in the league. Mexes is one of the top CBs in the league. Monto is one of the best in the league in his position, Balo is Balo. SES, one of the brightest young talents in the league, Kaka is Kaka. De Jong, one of the best DMs in the league.

We might be far and away from the real super powers of football right now, but in this league, we still have a squad that on paper SHOULD be able to compete.


Completely agree with you

As for dru, let's all refrain from calling anyone retarded and let's all stop measuring how much people are fans of this club.

Abandoning? I read the posts, follow the results, watch the goals/highlights. I just don't want to go through repetitive sequences that's been going on for 3 years now. I don't think that makes me any less of a fan than those who regularly watch the games. my heart still beats for Milan only, no other team.

You sound very silly sometimes... I don't know if you're actually aware of that.

I think it's fair to say that Allegri makes more stupid decisions, more consistently than Balotelli, who is just immature emotionally could ever hope to.

You only have to look as recently as our last game to see this. And then what does our genius coach do post match? Criticize him for his stupidity (rather like you are doing now)...because we all know criticizing your players in the media will only help your relationship with them and galvanize team spirit in general

Mourinho, Fergie and Wenger are absolute morons who persist in defending their players publicly all the time and placing the pressure on themselves....The genius that is Allegri has succeeded in justifying the decisions of a very poor referee, and will encourage other referees to be even less tolerant of Balo's inevitable future complaints.

Job well done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

you DO realize that it was Kurt that called our player "an insult to the retarded" right?

double post please delete
apologies

This post has been edited by drucurl: Sep 23 2013, 02:22 PM