The difference between their midfield and ours is embarrassing. They have a world class creator plus 2 guys full of running and that ability to get in the box. We have a bunch of static players who can't actually run.

Bonucci with two great assists tonight.

Hernanes has gotten a red for an attempted hand of God.

Smfh - Well this game is over! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

...switches off tv, walks away.

They'll have this wrapped up by January

It pisses me off how all of their players are basically perfect for the way they play. Bonucci is the most limited of their 3 CBs, so he plays the lesser role of sweeper - this is also plays to his strengths as he has a pretty good range of passing for a CB.

Compare that to us where we just have 11 random players with no chemistry, no gameplan. Just thrown together on the field.

Allegri plays the perfect system for the players we have. That's what's so good about it. Emanuelson as AM, Constant as LB, Boateng and Niang as Wingers.... Bojan as a CF... Poli as RB... He is the best, wouldn't you agree?

It's not like it's the coach's responsibility to play a system that is tailored to the players' strengths and shield them from their weaknesses. Oh wait...

Yep


Agreed

Kurt, the only thing frustrating about Juve is that they have a top class coach, which imo is on the same level as Mourinho imo.

He took a team that finished 7th and made them Scudetto winners even when they had a very average squad. Now they have the best squad in the league simply because Conte made them so great and their appeal as a Club has returned 10-fold. Moratta before Conte came was spending 11m on Martinez from Catania now they're buying Pogba and Tevez for basically nothing while we fund their moves by taking their excess baggage

Wow! I remember the time when you weren't so full of praise in regard to Conte. Well, all in all Juventus are again a very good team. They have funds with FIAT and the Agnelli's, they have a serious dynasty, a new stadium (which makes the club more self-sustainable), a great coach and a great team. Only one WC midfielder missing to make them top.

Really? Pirlo and Vidal are WC, Pogba will certainly become one and Marchisio is great. I'd say they need a WC defender more than anything.

They still miss the classic AM or SS, like Del Piero - someone who links up the midfield and attack, who can do everything alone or push someone with his brilliance into a chance.

Vidal and Marchisio are very good, not WC if you ask me. Especially the latter.

He's always rubbed me the wrong way, but as a tactician I've been singing him praises for over a year now. And his team that won the first Scudetto was pretty average aside from the midfield trio. But yes, in these last 2 summers they've built a team that is indisputably the best in the league

Yeah, but with the system they play they don't need an AM. And they've got Vucinic and Tevez in attack which is a really, really good pairing. And as for Vidal, he's one of the best midfielders in the world right now, top 5 material.

How? Mourinho has won so much more.

Tactically speaking he's at the same level as Mourinho imo. No he hasn't won as much but if he was given a team that are of the calibre that Mourinho has had plus the same amount of years (let's not forget this is only his 3rd season with a top flight team) he'd match him or at least get very close to him.

Plus he's a great man manager as well

I think it will be difficult for Juve to hold onto him beyond the next 2 years or so.