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post Jun 12 2013, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 12 2013, 05:07 AM) *
Wow, great post! Your argument is detailed and to the point and needless to say I agree 100%.

Oh, and that reminds me man. The guy in your avatar, Billy, he knew how to do it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) Legend that he is, I always considered him an Ambrosini type of player. Not nearly as talented and flashy as the others around him, but downright classy, downright humble, understood his limits, played to them, and bowed out gracefully.

I'll just say out of our recent senators, Nesta and Ambrosini did it how it was meant to be done. The others delayed it by an year or two, or in case of Pirlo soured their case altogether. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) And here we have Ambrosini saying that he can't play for any other Italian club after his association with our shirt. Respect, man.

I know how hard it must be to spend an year or two away from the country in a foreign environment. He clearly feels like he has another year to give, but does not want to sign for any other club in Seria A, let alone our direct and utter rival. I am looking at your Pirlo. You should have left to Madrid or Chelsea when you had the time.

But I will not talk about others any more, surely not the real traitor. I have a heavy heart today, but knew this day would come. And this day is all about Ambrosini - the faithful soldier. Good luck, once again, captain! Proud to call you that. And here I thought we'd struggle after Paolo in the captaincy department.

Thanks for the memories, Ambro! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) There were a bucketful of them!
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post Jun 12 2013, 12:53 AM
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I agree with you and all, and I have a lot of respect for Ambrosini and this is indeed a day to pay tribute to him, but Costcurta was really on another level. Costacurta at his peak was actually a world class defender, while loyal as he was, Ambrosini was mostly in the above average range throughout his career.
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post Jun 12 2013, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 12 2013, 05:53 AM) *
I agree with you and all, and I have a lot of respect for Ambrosini and this is indeed a day to pay tribute to him, but Costcurta was really on another level. Costacurta at his peak was actually a world class defender, while loyal as he was, Ambrosini was mostly in the above average range throughout his career.

Oh no, that's what I actually meant. More like him, but a legend. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Costcurta in all his years at the club wrote history as one of the finest in defense. It's not an apples to apples comparison. Ambrosini isn't a legend, just a very, very good (and loyal) player. And I am sure this is what Ambro will tell his grandchildren in the future.

That I was a very, very good players, who played at one of the best clubs in the world, and won a ton!
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post Jun 12 2013, 04:11 AM
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So after Ambro's departure, Bonera is the only player on our roster who was part of 2007 CL win.
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post Jun 12 2013, 04:27 AM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 12 2013, 01:53 AM) *
I agree with you and all, and I have a lot of respect for Ambrosini and this is indeed a day to pay tribute to him, but Costcurta was really on another level. Costacurta at his peak was actually a world class defender, while loyal as he was, Ambrosini was mostly in the above average range throughout his career.

Agreed. Some people underrate Ambro, but anyone that plays 500 or so games for Milan is by no means a bad player or even average. Certainly above average and would've probably stood out more in a lesser team. It's hard to stand out among the quality we've had over the past 2 decades.
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post Jun 12 2013, 08:48 AM
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Yeah that PSV goal is what comes to my mind when I think about his goals. he was not consistent enough to be considered a world class player (like Maldini, Xavi, etc.) but on his good day he was as good as it gets.

Too bad he ended his Milan career with a disastrous game where he got sent off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jun 12 2013, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Jun 12 2013, 06:11 AM) *
So after Ambro's departure, Bonera is the only player on our roster who was part of 2007 CL win.

And that's what hurts. Not just the fact that we lost all the players we had then; it's more that since 2005 to 2013 we failed to establish a natural cycles of players who take over. One of the best things that ever happened to Milan was that Maldini was here to take over from Baresi, and not just that - the fact that they played together had immense importance. Now we almost have a team that has no connection with the past generation, and that makes you sad, because the past generations was brilliant in many ways.

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 12 2013, 10:48 AM) *
Yeah that PSV goal is what comes to my mind when I think about his goals. he was not consistent enough to be considered a world class player (like Maldini, Xavi, etc.) but on his good day he was as good as it gets.

Too bad he ended his Milan career with a disastrous game where he got sent off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Yeah, but it happens to great players. I remember Jürgen Kohler ending his career the same way, but more tragic in fact. I'm just sad Ambrosini never got the standing ovation he deserved, leaving the San Siro pitch for one last time.
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post Jun 12 2013, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 12 2013, 01:04 PM) *
Yeah, but it happens to great players. I remember Jürgen Kohler ending his career the same way, but more tragic in fact. I'm just sad Ambrosini never got the standing ovation he deserved, leaving the San Siro pitch for one last time.


Yeah! Pretty absurd from our management! We all knew that he wasn't going to renew so they should have announced it earlier.
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post Jun 12 2013, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 12 2013, 02:04 PM) *
And that's what hurts. Not just the fact that we lost all the players we had then; it's more that since 2005 to 2013 we failed to establish a natural cycles of players who take over. One of the best things that ever happened to Milan was that Maldini was here to take over from Baresi, and not just that - the fact that they played together had immense importance. Now we almost have a team that has no connection with the past generation, and that makes you sad, because the past generations was brilliant in many ways.

Yes, because our management was asleep for a few years after that CL win and did things the wrong way. Instead of diong it gradually, they made a mess. Baresi was my idol back then but you knew with his departure that we have another giant taking over as captain.
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post Jun 12 2013, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Jun 12 2013, 03:56 PM) *
Yes, because our management was asleep for a few years after that CL win and did things the wrong way. Instead of diong it gradually, they made a mess. Baresi was my idol back then but you knew with his departure that we have another giant taking over as captain.

Winning the CL in 2007 certainly hurt this club way more than it helped it.
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post Jun 12 2013, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 12 2013, 09:00 AM) *
Winning the CL in 2007 certainly hurt this club way more than it helped it.


That doesn't make sense. Even in hindsight. Winning is not hurting this team. Backwards management and mentality is.
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post Jun 12 2013, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 12 2013, 05:23 PM) *
That doesn't make sense. Even in hindsight. Winning is not hurting this team. Backwards management and mentality is.

It's obviously the managements fault, but winning the CL allowed tem the excuse that Seedorf, Pirlo, Gattuso, etc were fine as starters. Made even more stupid when we sold the player that won it us. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 14 2013, 04:49 PM
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Massimo Ambrosini has described his time at Milan as ‘marvellous’, but refused to rule out a move to Fiorentina.

The club captain is looking for a new outfit after the Diavolo opted against renewing his contract which expires this month.

“This isn’t easy,” he said at a Press conference on Friday. “I’m emotional.

“I decided to wait a few days before talking as I didn’t want to say something in the heat of the moment which wouldn’t have done justice to my 18 years in Rossonero.

“I thank everyone, starting with President Silvio Berlusconi, Adriano Galliani and Ariedo Braida. It has been marvellous here, 18 years which I could never forget.”

The former Italian international was hoping to remain at San Siro after Daniele Bonera and Christian Abbiati were handed new deals.

“It is not up to me to say whether the club were right or wrong to let go of me,” added the former Cesena and Vicenza player.

“There is nothing scandalous about it though. I’m 36, I gave a lot to Milan who had the right to make the decision they made.

“I would have liked to have been informed of their decision in a different way, but I am here to say thank you.

“I would have preferred that Galliani told me first, but I then logically had a conversation with him.

“Life goes on though. I still feel like a player and I want to continue being one. And I’m not leaving Milan with anger.”

Ambrosini is being linked with a move to West Ham, but he is also thought to be of interest to the Viola.

“Fiorentina are a great club, bossed by a great Coach, with a serious and intriguing project,” he added. “If they came forward for me than I’d listen to what they were offering.”
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post Jun 15 2013, 05:10 AM
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Yes. Apparently he was very hurt with the way he was treated towards the end. I can't blame him. It was a big fuckup from our management. They should have at least informed him first.
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Maybe Galliani is getting too old...?
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