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> Champions League - R16 1st Leg - Milan vs Barcelona, Date: 20/02/2013 Time: 20:45 CET

 
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post Feb 19 2013, 11:30 AM
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We obviously have no Balo, but if Allegri snuffs out Barcelona's Plan A, which isn't that hard, then they have no Plan B to fall back on.

Tactics against Barca are easy if you know what you're doing.

Tight man-marking, compressed defence, and 'anti-football' as Messi himself labelled it when Rangers were the first to successfully do it in 2007.

Do not let them breathe, don't give them an inch, 150% concentration at all times and play deep.

Allegri should also pick, strangely enough, our 'tallest' possible team. Barca cannot play aerially at all so take advantage of that and use high balls on the quick counter.

If shitey Celtic cotton onto how it's done (only 6 years after Rangers did) then any f*cker can do it.

But it does take major effort.

I'll pitch the question: if we wanted to pick our 'tallest' players, and/or 'bulkiest', who would we select?
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post Feb 19 2013, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 19 2013, 02:30 PM) *
I'll pitch the question: if we wanted to pick our 'tallest' players, and/or 'bulkiest', who would we select?


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post Feb 19 2013, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 19 2013, 04:00 PM) *
We obviously have no Balo, but if Allegri snuffs out Barcelona's Plan A, which isn't that hard, then they have no Plan B to fall back on.

Tactics against Barca are easy if you know what you're doing.

Tight man-marking, compressed defence, and 'anti-football' as Messi himself labelled it when Rangers were the first to successfully do it in 2007.

Do not let them breathe, don't give them an inch, 150% concentration at all times and play deep.

Allegri should also pick, strangely enough, our 'tallest' possible team. Barca cannot play aerially at all so take advantage of that and use high balls on the quick counter.

If shitey Celtic cotton onto how it's done (only 6 years after Rangers did) then any f*cker can do it.

But it does take major effort.

I'll pitch the question: if we wanted to pick our 'tallest' players, and/or 'bulkiest', who would we select?

We don't have a solid, compressed back four, and tight man-marking is a non-existent concept in our play. so is 150% concentration. seriously, we stand no chance of even getting a draw. I predict a 0-3 Barca win. maybe we can snatch a goal through El Sha outsmarting their not-so-great defense and make it 1-3. but that's the farthest I can see us going. we lack the marquee players needed in defense and attack to stand any chance.

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Tight man-marking, compressed defence, and 'anti-football' as Messi himself labelled it when Rangers were the first to successfully do it in 2007.

I love how you always mention this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 19 2013, 08:46 AM) *
Depends how they play. If they show the same arrogance like the SF 2nd leg in 2010 and 2012 then we can stand some sort of chance. If they really go for it they we'll lose both legs.

They'll probably show arrogance because they're still as good as they were, and we're much worse so should be an easy one for them. even so, I don't think we stand a chance.

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post Feb 19 2013, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 19 2013, 09:46 AM) *
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Blasphemy, he is 30+ he is sh1te!


Why do you have this opinion that aged players are crap? Ever considered Nesta, Drogba, Pirlo etc? It doesn't have to do with age, but with the showings on the pitch. And Ambro this season has been absolutely appalling.
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post Feb 19 2013, 01:50 PM
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By the way, listen to Berlusca: "Flamini and Muntari will mark Mesisi, each one for each half".

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When it comes to football tactics this guy is absolutely clueless. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 19 2013, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 19 2013, 06:49 PM) *
Why do you have this opinion that aged players are crap? Ever considered Nesta, Drogba, Pirlo etc? It doesn't have to do with age, but with the showings on the pitch. And Ambro this season has been absolutely appalling.

Huh, R7 most definitely meant that as a sarcasm! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) He loves well-aged things, um, players!
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post Feb 19 2013, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 19 2013, 04:00 PM) *
Huh, R7 most definitely meant that as a sarcasm! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) He loves well-aged things, um, players!


Then why did he bring it up in the first place? I didn't say Ambro can't cut it because he's old, but cause he's become a depleted player and this season he's been horrible. Robinho, for example, can't cut it either, but he's not old.
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post Feb 19 2013, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 19 2013, 07:12 PM) *
Then why did he bring it up in the first place? I didn't say Ambro can't cut it because he's old, but cause he's become a depleted player and this season he's been horrible. Robinho, for example, can't cut it either, but he's not old.

He probably did because of he slack the seniors have been getting (rightly, or otherwise) here in the past few seasons. Sure, most of them are gone, and most of them couldn't cut it when they were here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Ultimately, this was something both the management and the players should have thought about quite a bit earlier than they did.

For some it's painful seeing the legends (?) or at least senior players hang the boots. For some it's bliss!
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post Feb 19 2013, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 19 2013, 03:54 AM) *
Last season Ambrosini played a crucial role against Barcelona. I think he can reprise his showing.

No way man. Ambro has clearly shown this season that his fuel tank is 100% empty

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 19 2013, 07:46 AM) *
Ever considered coaching Milan? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm 100% sure I'd make more logical decisions than our "coach", most people on here would as well

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 19 2013, 01:50 PM) *
By the way, listen to Berlusca: "Flamini and Muntari will mark Mesisi, each one for each half".

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When it comes to football tactics this guy is absolutely clueless. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

If Muntari plays it will be just plain laughable. It's clear Silvio hasn't watched the team play in a while.

Also, having someone running around aimlessly after Messi would give Barca just what they want. You can't approach a team like Barca and man-mark a single player
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post Feb 19 2013, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 19 2013, 11:02 AM) *
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You are not serious!


All the teams with notable scalps of Barca have been big. Inter, Celtic, Rangers, Chelsea. Tall tight teams.
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post Feb 19 2013, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 19 2013, 11:04 AM) *
We don't have a solid, compressed back four, and tight man-marking is a non-existent concept in our play. so is 150% concentration. seriously, we stand no chance of even getting a draw. I predict a 0-3 Barca win. maybe we can snatch a goal through El Sha outsmarting their not-so-great defense and make it 1-3. but that's the farthest I can see us going. we lack the marquee players needed in defense and attack to stand any chance.


Right and Celtic have all the above?

Are you aware they have guys like Efe Ambrose at the back!?

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Mainly because Messi slagged it off as anti football and hey, guess what, other teams started doing the same. And it works.

Take a bow Walter Smith.
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post Feb 19 2013, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 18 2013, 10:30 PM) *
I put a * next to Constant because I'm seriously worried about him. His defensive qualities have rarely been put to the test and I seriously feel that he could be turned inside out here.

Im not really worried about Constant. His defensive qualities doesnt lack that much ,but if it is short it is complemented by his very high work rate.

The key area will be midfield. thats barca's strength and thats where the real battle will be.

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post Feb 19 2013, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE (rip @ Feb 19 2013, 05:03 PM) *
Im not really worried about Constant. His defensive qualities doesnt lack that much ,but if it is short it is complemented by his very high work rate.

The key area will be midfield. thats barca's strength and thats where the real battle will be.

Agree with that but they use the wing a lot as well. Last season Zambro and Abate both worked their @sses off in all the games and that's when we did our best defensively while when Anatonini was on we struggled more.

But yeah, we need to pack that midfield, the midfield needs to be tight in the center as well as cover the FBs, which is why a 4-3-3 would be an abolutely suicide mission
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Called-up players: Abbiati, Amelia, Gabriel, Abate, De Sciglio, Mexes, Yepes, Zapata, Ambrosini, Boateng, Constant, Cristante (N.36), Montolivo, Muntari, Traorè, Bojan, El Shaarawy, Niang, Pazzini.

No Nocerino and Flamini, which means Muntari will play from the start, most probably alongside Ambrosini. We are literally fucked!
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post Feb 19 2013, 05:36 PM
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WTF? what happened to them? we can't even have all of our players available for a match like this FFS.
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