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post Dec 27 2012, 08:08 AM
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And I just want to say, the way people started to talk about him was downright unjust. It's one thing to be frustrated and disappointed, but to start insulting him? For something he doesn't have control over? Why don't you start cussing van Basten while you're at it? Got a nasty injury that ended his career? F@ck him.
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post Dec 27 2012, 10:19 AM
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It's a sad story all around. He should have been our next star, the Sheva replacement, a sure world class player and so on. Who would have thought we would lose money on him selling him for so low at 23? But the whole injury sutation is one big mess. Hope he at least would have a good career from now on.
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:08 AM
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I wish we would've at least loaned him once to see how he does in another club. but we stubbornly kept hold of him and let him suffer [physically] at Milan, and now only want to sell. and let's face it, if his contract wasn't about to run out soon we'd still hear how he's not for sale and his the future of the club, blah blah.
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Dec 27 2012, 01:08 PM) *
I wish we would've at least loaned him once to see how he does in another club. but we stubbornly kept hold of him and let him suffer [physically] at Milan, and now only want to sell. and let's face it, if his contract wasn't about to run out soon we'd still hear how he's not for sale and his the future of the club, blah blah.

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post Dec 27 2012, 12:23 PM
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Another $h!tlegri victim (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Yet again the player leaves demonized. I can only wish him well. Take care ducky and in the future...who knows (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Time for us to get someone dependable and an actual good player...i.e. no Matri, Quaglierella etc
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post Dec 27 2012, 12:59 PM
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I think if he goes it's because we want to cash in on him but I doubt, the way things have gone for him at Milan, he's dying to stay with us right now. And I don't blame him. Though I think it's mutual.
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post Dec 27 2012, 03:46 PM
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It's all for the best folks, it's all for the best. Keeping him any longer would have made zero sense. I'm just irritated at the fact that we lost 20 million for selling him now rather than last January, but oh well...
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post Dec 27 2012, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (drucurl @ Dec 27 2012, 11:23 AM) *
Another $h!tlegri victim (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


Quite simply shut up.

Are you seriously blaming the manager for the fact Pato just hasn't worked out under THREE different managers?
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post Dec 27 2012, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Dec 27 2012, 12:40 PM) *
Quite simply shut up.

Are you seriously blaming the manager for the fact Pato just hasn't worked out under THREE different managers?

Get a clue bro. Pato did well when he played. End of story.
Under Carlo and Leo he was growing. Under Leo he played out of position and scored like crazy.

There's always the possibility that he could reclaim his place in the national team like "past-it" Ronaldinho has done (he's tearing it up in Brazil by the way)
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post Dec 27 2012, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 27 2012, 02:35 PM) *
He had good seasons under all 3 managers. Problem is he's been injured far too much the past 18 months.

Once again unprovoked attack!!!
Hope I don't get banned when I respond to the next one

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post Dec 27 2012, 10:08 PM
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Sorry kurt and danny but I had to delete both of your posts.

Repost anything you want to reply to dru and his opinions on Pato but any further insults of this kind will not be tollerated on this forum. We've had one too many problems with this in the past and we've turned a blind eye to them but the mods have all decided for zero tollerance on this isue.

If this persists a mod will take further action against anyone who resorts to such petty namecalling
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post Dec 27 2012, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Dec 27 2012, 05:38 PM) *
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, so when Leo or any other manager plays him out of position it's fine because he's Pato. But Allegri gets dog's abuse for playing him in his...er...correct position and him getting...er...injured?

Sorry, I hate resorting to namecalling and I am totally with you on the Pirlo opinion.

when did I ever say or knock $h!tlegri for playing him out of position? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Let me break it down for you:
1) Allegri benched Pato when he was fit because he preferred iBra and Robinho up front

2)The only reason Pato got to contribute to our scudetto season (scoring the same amount of goals as iBra mind you) was because of iBra's ill temper getting him the red cards...otherwise $h!tlegri would have gotten rid of him in 2011

3)Sometimes I wonder just how injured is Pato if we are supposedly shopping around an injured player and we have so many alleged buyers waiting.

4)After Anderlect game Pato complained about not getting playing time and was mysteriously sidelined thereafter. I had a suspicion that the time out THIS time was not injury but punishment from the $h!t one.

5)Pato misses a penalty...gets booted off INSTANTLY...other players underperform for MONTHS and $h!tlegri doesn't even bat an eye....


Yeah yeah I'm an idiot etc....... But answer me this :

how would you feel if you were a young up and coming hot shot working and training and a manager doesn't like you and decides to bench you??? Yeah yeah he was injured but so is Robben and Robin Van Persie...heck even Messi. Pato has the talent to be mentioned in the same breath with these guys and his stats still speak for themselves BUT he needs a lot of care and support to get there

EVERYTHING I've seen and read, from the instant benching after the pen miss to Pato's own comments about Allegri not communicating with him seems to indicate that I'm right.

There are some mentally AND physically tough players who can get there on their own and then again, there are some that need a little coaxing. $h!tlegri was never the coaxing type. It was always sink or swim with him and while that's not bad in itself, because a coach's job is to obtain results at the end of the day, it has the downside of missing out on fantastic contributions from the players that need that extra bit to produce.

I guess we'll hear Pato's side once he leaves Milan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Dec 27 2012, 10:19 PM
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We can still read kurt's post as quoted in dru's post (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Dec 27 2012, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Dec 27 2012, 10:19 PM) *
We can still read kurt's post as quoted in dru's post (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You're right!

And now he's quoted Danny as well...

Dru you're making my work hard here...

I'll just edit the naughty bit out
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post Dec 28 2012, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 27 2012, 11:08 PM) *
We've had one too many problems with this in the past and we've turned a blind eye to them

Basically, it's okay with dru doing it, but as soon as me/Danny do anything of the sort it gets jumped on. Bingo.
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