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post Dec 10 2012, 05:32 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 10 2012, 01:34 AM) *
Loaning him out? I think it's out of the question - considering everything (including his relationship with Barbara).


Why out of the question? The guy is barely getting any play-time. It's either sell him in January or renew his contract and our faith in him. If it's the latter, well, maybe spending 5-6 months in Brazil would do him good, cause I can't see his case going anywhere with how things have been going so far.
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post Dec 10 2012, 06:27 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 10 2012, 09:32 AM) *
Why out of the question? The guy is barely getting any play-time. It's either sell him in January or renew his contract and our faith in him. If it's the latter, well, maybe spending 5-6 months in Brazil would do him good, cause I can't see his case going anywhere with how things have been going so far.

He is not getting any playing time because he is always injured its a vicious cycle sending one of our prized strikers to Brazil and by the way we would most likely have to pay for his wages because i cannot see any Brazlian club bank rolling his wages. For now we are getting a few wins under our belt hopefully that calms him down and no one rushes him back to fitness. He has a place overwhelmingly in this clubs starting line up when he is fit sending him to Brazil would most likely see him sold on afterwards as right now we all know hes going to be priced down when sold. Take Balotelli for example if we wanted him in a swap deal with Pato no one in there right mind would take Pato in this state. Give Pato time. Robinho looks more and more likely to leave then Pato.
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post Dec 10 2012, 06:31 AM
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I'm saying send him to Brazil so he can recover there. The guy is simply not playing due to these injuries, and we're still paying his wages, so it wouldn't make a difference in that regard.
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post Dec 10 2012, 09:28 AM
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As we've seen before, he recovers well and stays healthy with the Brazilians (NT), but the problem is he gets injured soon after he comes back. it's almost mysterious...

I don't know what to think anymore. just waiting to see how it goes during the transfer window.
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Dec 10 2012, 01:28 PM) *
As we've seen before, he recovers well and stays healthy with the Brazilians (NT), but the problem is he gets injured soon after he comes back. it's almost mysterious...

I don't know what to think anymore. just waiting to see how it goes during the transfer window.

indeed its very weird but he gets injured on the pitch the recuperation in italy has been shitty.
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post Dec 10 2012, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Dec 10 2012, 11:28 AM) *
As we've seen before, he recovers well and stays healthy with the Brazilians (NT), but the problem is he gets injured soon after he comes back. it's almost mysterious...

I don't know what to think anymore. just waiting to see how it goes during the transfer window.

I honestly think it's not a pattern. That would be just to easy, I mean - wouldn't someone give a call to the NT doctors and ask what magic they're doing? I think it's sheer luck.
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post Dec 10 2012, 01:02 PM
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#punishment
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 10 2012, 02:03 PM) *
I honestly think it's not a pattern. That would be just to easy, I mean - wouldn't someone give a call to the NT doctors and ask what magic they're doing?

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post Dec 13 2012, 09:03 AM
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http://www.football-italia.net/28378/pato-...-fit-says-agent

Pretty much what dru posted. What a debacle...
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post Dec 13 2012, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 10 2012, 03:33 PM) *
I honestly think it's not a pattern. That would be just to easy, I mean - wouldn't someone give a call to the NT doctors and ask what magic they're doing? I think it's sheer luck.


It could be their training/fitness methods.. or pitch quality.
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post Dec 13 2012, 12:19 PM
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Again...it's just my hunch and suspicion/paranoia...but if it's TRUE it's hardly surprising.

$h!tlegri has NEVER like Pato or any player like him. He was basically FORCED to play him in out scudetto season when iBra got his red cards He likes the high intensity players with the non-stop work rates.....but he's too much of a simpleton to realize that every type of player (with notable exceptions of course) has his place.

Berbatov, Zidane, Ronaldinho etc will NEVER spend all game running around, chasing shadows. It doesn't in any way minimize their worth it's just that it's not them.

$hitlegri imho genuinely wishes that every player was their positional version of Flamini, possibly with more intelligence and technique/talent

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post Dec 13 2012, 01:40 PM
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I think the Pato situation is very much aggravated by the Barbara baggage. That makes loaning or selling out of the question. Daddy's girl would not be happy if her boyfriend was sold. And Daddy Silvio does not want to upset Queen Barbara.

So the club and the player are stuck in a bad situation.

tbh Pato probably barely minds. He's got a hot girl who clearly adores him, and he's getting paid a huge amount of money. He will even get a new deal in this state as long as he and Babs are still together.
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But they aren't together anymore. The split up some time back.

EDIT: Extremely possessive about Barbara. Will not hear anything spoken against her. For the record! ;-)
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post Dec 13 2012, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Dec 13 2012, 01:40 PM) *
I think the Pato situation is very much aggravated by the Barbara baggage. That makes loaning or selling out of the question. Daddy's girl would not be happy if her boyfriend was sold. And Daddy Silvio does not want to upset Queen Barbara.

So the club and the player are stuck in a bad situation.

tbh Pato probably barely minds. He's got a hot girl who clearly adores him, and he's getting paid a huge amount of money. He will even get a new deal in this state as long as he and Babs are still together.

What does Barbara have to do with this?

If he's fit you PLAY him FFS. This is all Allegri. We've known they've had problems in the past just like with 75% of our best players.

Allegri wants a team full of Urbys, Boneras, Pazzinis, etc because they're all midtable quality players and he feels like he has the power in the relationship
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post Dec 13 2012, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 13 2012, 09:53 AM) *
What does Barbara have to do with this?

If he's fit you PLAY him FFS. This is all Allegri. We've known they've had problems in the past just like with 75% of our best players.

Allegri wants a team full of Urbys, Boneras, Pazzinis, etc because they're all midtable quality players and he feels like he has the power in the relationship

Like I said....it made ZERO sense that Pato would complain about playing time if he was going to be injured....not even try to declare himself fit for the next match...Something isn't right somewhere.
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