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 Nov 19 2012, 09:48 PM
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Primavera  Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564  |
Nah, let's move on. We'll continue the next time Carlo manages to lose.
But just btw. - where's your "players fail to show and should be blamed" argument now? It seems to me that what applies to Allegri does not to Ancelotti. |
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Nov 19 2012, 10:25 PM
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Allievi Nazionali  Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 19 2012, 03:48 PM)  Nah, let's move on. We'll continue the next time Carlo manages to lose. But just btw. - where's your "players fail to show and should be blamed" argument now? It seems to me that what applies to Allegri does not to Ancelotti. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This is never ending and we will always quite truthfully one up each other. No one is safe. |
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Nov 19 2012, 10:29 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 19 2012, 10:48 PM) But just btw. - where's your "players fail to show and should be blamed" argument now? It seems to me that what applies to Allegri does not to Ancelotti. Because underperofmring with Silva, Lavezzi, Menez, Ibrahimovic, Nene, Pastore in the French league is not the same as underperforming with a bunch of mediocre players in a better league? Had Allegri had those players in Serie A and wasn't winning the league (even if Serie A is more difficult) I'd have been making the same complaints. |
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Nov 19 2012, 10:46 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
What kind of formation does Ancelotti play? 4-2-3-1?
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Nov 20 2012, 02:23 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
I believe so.
Pretty sure it was Nene-Pastore-Lavezzi behind a striker at the weekend. Though maybe it's different when Ibra plays? Not sure. This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Nov 20 2012, 02:23 AM |
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Nov 20 2012, 10:20 AM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 20 2012, 04:59 AM) Because underperofmring with Silva, Lavezzi, Menez, Ibrahimovic, Nene, Pastore in the French league is not the same as underperforming with a bunch of mediocre players in a better league? Had Allegri had those players in Serie A and wasn't winning the league (even if Serie A is more difficult) I'd have been making the same complaints. ..ok..and so what Petkovic. Montella and Strama are achieving with their teams are defined as what exactly? Over-performing. Look there's no question in my mind that we've been heavily weakend. We're not asking for a pot of gold at the end of the season. But there is no way we can rationalise our position on the table. Allegri's a good coach, but I think he's just not a Milan coach. |
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Nov 21 2012, 05:23 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
Yes, Ancelotti has a much better team and he is expected to easily win Ligue 1.
But Allegri has a weaker team and he is not expected to win Serie A by us fans. Never was this season, except by Galliani, who everyone laughed at. STILL, his team is MORE than good enough for a top 3 finish. The team is under-performing and that doesn't make our players any less valuable in my opinion. I looked at the top Seire A squads before the season started and saw a Milan that was good enough for third. Which is what Allegri was targeting himself. Abbiati Abate Mexes Zapata De Jong Boateng Montolivo El Shaarawy Bojan Pato IS MORE than good enough for top 3. When there was Nesta, Silva and Ibra in this team, it was good enough to win the league. Simple as. Allegri is not doing good with what he has available to him. In fact he is doing horribly bad. |
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Nov 21 2012, 03:36 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Nov 21 2012, 07:23 AM) Yes, Ancelotti has a much better team and he is expected to easily win Ligue 1. But Allegri has a weaker team and he is not expected to win Serie A by us fans. Never was this season, except by Galliani, who everyone laughed at. STILL, his team is MORE than good enough for a top 3 finish. The team is under-performing and that doesn't make our players any less valuable in my opinion. I looked at the top Seire A squads before the season started and saw a Milan that was good enough for third. Which is what Allegri was targeting himself. Abbiati Abate Mexes Zapata De Jong Boateng Montolivo El Shaarawy Bojan Pato IS MORE than good enough for top 3. When there was Nesta, Silva and Ibra in this team, it was good enough to win the league. Simple as. Allegri is not doing good with what he has available to him. In fact he is doing horribly bad. That's everyone problem. We're not as bad as we've been these past two months. And if a team is underperforming, who else to blame but the coach? It's plain logical. Not to mention that Allegri's managed to make his mess-ups even more evident to everyone. |
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Nov 21 2012, 04:30 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Nov 21 2012, 05:23 AM) Yes, Ancelotti has a much better team and he is expected to easily win Ligue 1. But Allegri has a weaker team and he is not expected to win Serie A by us fans. Never was this season, except by Galliani, who everyone laughed at. STILL, his team is MORE than good enough for a top 3 finish. The team is under-performing and that doesn't make our players any less valuable in my opinion. I looked at the top Seire A squads before the season started and saw a Milan that was good enough for third. Which is what Allegri was targeting himself. Abbiati Abate Mexes Zapata De Jong Boateng Montolivo El Shaarawy Bojan Pato IS MORE than good enough for top 3. When there was Nesta, Silva and Ibra in this team, it was good enough to win the league. Simple as. Allegri is not doing good with what he has available to him. In fact he is doing horribly bad. Great post |
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Nov 21 2012, 07:19 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Nov 21 2012, 06:23 AM) Abbiati Abate Mexes Zapata De Jong Boateng Montolivo El Shaarawy Bojan Pato Well, that team would get relegated in reality. |
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Nov 21 2012, 07:24 PM
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Milanfan to Death Group: Full Members Posts: 2,171 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Malaysia Member No.: 11 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 22 2012, 03:19 AM) Well, that team would get relegated in reality. I wouldn't go as far as relegation, Kurt. Come on, some of these players may lack the experience and personality of champions we used to have but quality-wise they should at least manage to be at the top end of the table. |
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Nov 21 2012, 07:34 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
Ahh, it's quite useless arguing. We have all our minds made up and set long time ago.
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Nov 21 2012, 08:25 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (amancik @ Nov 22 2012, 12:24 AM) I wouldn't go as far as relegation, Kurt. Come on, some of these players may lack the experience and personality of champions we used to have but quality-wise they should at least manage to be at the top end of the table. I think Kurt meant playing with 10 men every match is playing with relegation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Aye? |
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Nov 21 2012, 08:33 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 21 2012, 09:25 PM) I think Kurt meant playing with 10 men every match is playing with relegation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Aye? Can always count on acid to understand. |
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Nov 21 2012, 11:17 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 21 2012, 01:19 PM) Well, that team would get relegated in reality. Way to dodge the point and come back with a smart @ss remark! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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