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post Oct 29 2012, 05:57 PM
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Mexes must be a referal point of all our defence. He's the best we got and Allegri can't afford not to play him. Against Genoa he left him out only 'cos he was late for 10 minutes. With Mexes as a starter we would have Acerbi and Zapata fighting for a place and Bonera and Yepes for the other. Allegri got everything wrong with Acerbi. He must play the guy in the center, not on the wing. We get it that he hasn't the physical abilites to run fast, so we must get him to play in the center where he wouldn't need a run. He's good at duels and aeral challenges.

In the midfield, if we're playing a 3-5-2 with a trequartista then that's the position for Montolivo. Hopefully Allegri starts to play Emanuelson at his possition on the left. On the right, it's a tie between Abate and De Sciglio so I wouldn't debate around this. Sure De Sciglio is my personal favorite. On the center of midfield, there's defenitely a place for De Jong as a starter, while for the other one I'd let Ambrosini and Nocerino fight for the place, while in the future after players get fit that place should be a competition for Muntari/Nocerino and Boateng too. Surely rotation with De Jong and Montolivo is not out of question.

I think it's normal to start again with Pato and El Shaarawy in the attack, but if we're playing Montolivo as a trequartista, and De Sciglio and Emanuelson as wingers, then I'd like to see how Pazzini responds to that. All Bojan/Pazzini/Pato/Niang should be fighting to be El Shaarawy's companion on the attack currently.

how that would look:

Mexes - Acerbi/Zapata - Bonera/Yepes

Abate/DeSciglio - De Jong - Ambrosini/Nocerino - Emanuelson

Montolivo

Pato/Pazzini - El Shaarawy



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post Oct 29 2012, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 29 2012, 05:52 PM) *
Except for Ambrosini, all midfielders are fram from static. And because it are 2 DMs, Montolivo has the better possibility to link midfield with attack, and also Emanuelson.

De Jong isn't exactly a runner. Him and Ambro are similar which is why we might have a problem.

Also, don't forget that Monto is the only forward thinking player in that midfield, he has no one behind him to help with the tempo of the game and to keep the ball moving, thus the reason why I said that he'll most likely end up dropping deep to pick the ball up.

Montolivo works great for Italy as an AM, but I think you guys are forgetting that he's sarrounded by amazing midfielders on the pitch when playing with Italy, not one of them would fit into the mold of Ambro and DJ. DDR is the DM in the equation but even he tends to get forward and has that vision and technique which allows him to make the smart pass that keeps things moving along. The situation is completely different, so I'm personally expecting another huge fail.

At this point I'd rather we go back to the diamond with Monto behind Pato and El Shaa and Boateng, Nocerino and DJ behind Monto.

This 3-man defence is just a complete mess and renders us completely impotent in attack.
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post Oct 29 2012, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2012, 08:28 PM) *
De Jong isn't exactly a runner. Him and Ambro are similar which is why we might have a problem.

Also, don't forget that Monto is the only forward thinking player in that midfield, he has no one behind him to help with the tempo of the game and to keep the ball moving, thus the reason why I said that he'll most likely end up dropping deep to pick the ball up.

Maybe it's because I know De Jong longer than you, but I can't agree with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGQRjLwj-Xk&feature=fvsr
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post Oct 29 2012, 07:05 PM
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Line-up update after Allegri's press conference: Amelia; Mexes, Bonera, Yepes; Abate, Ambrosini, Montolivo, Constant; Emanuelson, El Shaarawy, Pato.

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Constant as LM, Emanuelson as FW. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

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post Oct 29 2012, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 29 2012, 09:05 PM) *
Line-up update after Allegri's press conference: Amelia; Mexes, Bonera, Yepes; Abate, Ambrosini, Montolivo, Constant; Emanuelson, El Shaarawy, Pato.

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Constant as LM, Emanuelson as FW. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

Also liked the other more. De Jong is better to have on the pitch than Constant, plus players were put on right positions - except about Bonera being in the very center but that's with both. How is Zapata doing?
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post Oct 29 2012, 08:12 PM
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Why is Zapata left out? And if Allegri isn't keen on Emanuelson as a left wingback, why not De Sciglio instead of Constant? I mean, Constant did nothing.

No Bojan, but again Emanuelson - typical Allegri stuff. Unbelievable.
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post Oct 29 2012, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 29 2012, 06:54 PM) *
Maybe it's because I know De Jong longer than you, but I can't agree with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGQRjLwj-Xk&feature=fvsr

Showing me a youtube vid says nothing, and I've watched De Jong enough times for Milan and City to know what type of player he is.

He's a holding mid, and playing him and Ambro together is just overkill and completely unnecassary when what we're currently desperate for is a creative spark in this team, a forward thinking player who can make a difference, not someone else to clog up the middle of the pitch.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 29 2012, 08:12 PM) *
Why is Zapata left out? And if Allegri isn't keen on Emanuelson as a left wingback, why not De Sciglio instead of Constant? I mean, Constant did nothing.

No Bojan, but again Emanuelson - typical Allegri stuff. Unbelievable.

Typical stuff really.

I don't know why we even bothered signing Bojan since Allegri is treating him like the cr@p he has stuck to his shoe.

This Urby in attack thing has crossed the line of stupidity into straight up crazy. I just don't understand what Allegri sees in him playing there. And even worse, we're playing with a formation that is perfect for him in terms of playing in his natural position. Just unfathomable. And of course Constant won't do anything there, he's a central midfielder FFS!!! What should be expected of him? Allegri is just unbelievable at this point. How Galliani does not see the idiocy of this guy is beyond me.
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post Oct 29 2012, 08:34 PM
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I don't wanna imagine the tactical mindfuck when Muntari starts playing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2012, 10:33 PM) *
How Galliani does not see the idiocy of this guy is beyond me.


He does see it, but he loves Allegri's dong, so he can't fire him.
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post Oct 29 2012, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 29 2012, 08:34 PM) *
I don't wanna imagine the tactical mindfuck when Muntari starts playing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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For some reason this made me laugh!

When in reality it's incredibly sad for us because what you're saying is completely true
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post Oct 29 2012, 09:40 PM
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A win at Palermo? Highly doubt it.

Forza Milan, nonetheless (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)
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post Oct 29 2012, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 29 2012, 09:40 PM) *
A win at Palermo? Highly doubt it.

Love the optimism (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 29 2012, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 29 2012, 11:40 PM) *
A win at Palermo? Highly doubt it.

Forza Milan, nonetheless (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)


Well I think we will win this one too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 29 2012, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2012, 10:33 PM) *
Showing me a youtube vid says nothing, and I've watched De Jong enough times for Milan and City to know what type of player he is.

I've seen him at Ajax, and you haven't clearly, else you wouldn't come with statements him being not a runner, and not being someone who can think forward. I just searched quickly for a vid to add, after I typed my post.

But nevermind, just stick with your truth.
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post Oct 29 2012, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2012, 11:46 PM) *

Well, there's not really much foundation for being optimistic. Historically speaking, we're not strong against them, and since this year we really play badly...well...not much room for expectations.

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 29 2012, 11:54 PM) *
I've seen him at Ajax, and you haven't clearly, else you wouldn't come with statements him being not a runner, and not being someone who can think forward. I just searched quickly for a vid to add, after I typed my post.

But nevermind, just stick with your truth.

Playing for Ajax in Holland is one thing, and for Milan in Serie A a completely different thing. He's a runner, yes, but he's not doing it like Kaka or Pato - not maximizing his running-pass-shoot options like a true attacking minded intelligent player would do.

Can he think forward for sure? I don't think so. Again, it's different at Ajax, where you basically have an integrated system for ages.
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