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post Sep 4 2012, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 4 2012, 12:07 PM) *
Does any of it really matter? If the kid acts as a professional during training and everything else related to his job, then whatever he does with his personal life shouldn't be of any concern to anyone.


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As long as he is keeping his commitment to the club, he should live it up any way he can. Life is short, enjoy it to the maximum!
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Sep 5 2012, 01:16 AM) *
Where is this "full interview?" All football italia has is what Zed posted. If the seniors were mentioning that he needs to stop going out and concentrate on his game then that's one thing but by the context of what Zed posted it seems like they were commenting on his hair. If it was about his hair then he is fully within his rights to tell them to piss off. We may think it looks ridiculous but he's just being himself. I do thing SAF is being ridiculous "banning" behavior but because of his stature he gets away with it. Young players should definitely be counseled on the potential pitfalls of celebrity but banning things doesn't teach them. Like X said, as long as he shows up to practice on time, acts like a professional and tries to improve his game I don't think it matters.


I didn't see it was football-italia. There is a longer version on goal I think. Also quoting the same source.

Well there's a point of difference I see. Live life to the maximum and all that. Next thing I know Boateng is injured from having too much sex??! I've never heard of any of our past dream team people having that problem.

You can show up on time and go through the motions and fulfill the terms of your contract. That doesn't equate to giving it your all.

Rino talks about him coming an hour early to get a workout in the gym, while other players sauntered in 20 minutes before time.

You might think this is being boring and old-hat and conservative, but I think perhaps, this extra dedication is what kept the likes of Maldini and Seedorf on their feet through a season while this new lot fall like flies.

P.S: NOT SAYING SeS IS A PARTY ANIMAL OR DOES NOT TRAIN OR LOSE FOCUS...just that if he can give an extra 30 or 40% he ought to. Now is the time or else he risks being another one of those hundreds of journeymen footballers who once showed great promise.
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 4 2012, 11:08 PM) *
Well there's a point of difference I see. Live life to the maximum and all that. Next thing I know Boateng is injured from having too much sex??! I've never heard of any of our past dream team people having that problem.


That was just an insinuation made by his girlfriend. I doubt it had anything to do with his injuries.
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:20 PM
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He's still a teenager, it's hard not to care about your appearance at that age. and not everyone's like Pato who looks like Robinson Crusoe all the time...
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 4 2012, 11:20 PM) *
and not everyone's like Pato who looks like Robinson Crusoe all the time...


True dat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 5 2012, 12:32 AM
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picking up women on facebook? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


why does he feel the need to share that?
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post Sep 5 2012, 02:06 AM
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QUOTE (arivanjj @ Sep 5 2012, 02:32 AM) *
picking up women on facebook? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


why does he feel the need to share that?

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post Sep 5 2012, 03:54 AM
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I think the Yankee way is best. Every player has to be professional looking as they are representing an organisation. So long as El Sha is under contract, he should do what the club wants. His hair is incredibly crap and he looks like an idiot.
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post Sep 5 2012, 08:45 AM
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Thank you kurt. Players have too much individuality these days anyway.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 4 2012, 11:08 PM) *
I didn't see it was football-italia. There is a longer version on goal I think. Also quoting the same source.

Well there's a point of difference I see. Live life to the maximum and all that. Next thing I know Boateng is injured from having too much sex??! I've never heard of any of our past dream team people having that problem.

You can show up on time and go through the motions and fulfill the terms of your contract. That doesn't equate to giving it your all.

Rino talks about him coming an hour early to get a workout in the gym, while other players sauntered in 20 minutes before time.

You might think this is being boring and old-hat and conservative, but I think perhaps, this extra dedication is what kept the likes of Maldini and Seedorf on their feet through a season while this new lot fall like flies.

P.S: NOT SAYING SeS IS A PARTY ANIMAL OR DOES NOT TRAIN OR LOSE FOCUS...just that if he can give an extra 30 or 40% he ought to. Now is the time or else he risks being another one of those hundreds of journeymen footballers who once showed great promise.

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Couldn't agree with you more
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post Sep 5 2012, 10:06 AM
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What?

The likes of Pirlo did spend time on their hair. Dida had a different fancy shave on his head every week, Ronaldo had this in his last days with us (not to mention this!), etc. and no one complained. now just because they or you don't like El Sha's Mohawk he's being too individual?

Please don't be hypocrites!

I don't like his haircut and shaved eyebrows either but it's none of anyone's business. certainly not his teammates. if the club decide it's not appropriate then he has to abide by the rules but that's not the case. his teammates have no right to interfere in these personal matters just because they think they're senators and have won a lot. what a crap. Rino thinks you should only focus on playing? tell that to Joe Jordan... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Sep 5 2012, 10:10 AM
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Not going to enter the debate as it is a matter of opinion.Just gonna state that I don't agree...
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 5 2012, 11:06 AM) *
I don't like his haircut and shaved eyebrows either but it's none of anyone's business. certainly not his teammates. if the club decide it's not appropriate then he has to abide by the rules but that's not the case. his teammates have no right to interfere in these personal matters just because they think they're senators and have won a lot. what a crap. Rino thinks you should only focus on playing? tell that to Joe Jordan... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I think he's unprofessional looking, but I'm more concerned about his bragging about his personal life. When you're being paid millions by a club, you should act like a grown up, not likea spoiled child. He has plenty of time to mess around as a millionaire when he retires.
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 5 2012, 05:09 PM) *
I think he's unprofessional looking, but I'm more concerned about his bragging about his personal life. When you're being paid millions by a club, you should act like a grown up, not likea spoiled child. He has plenty of time to mess around as a millionaire when he retires.


Thank you kurt.

@Zed.D: I'm not isolating his hairstyle. I just find the whole substance of the interview to be too rockstar-ish and full of entitlement (IMO) and if I connect his statements in the interview to what Rino stated about Milan in his last couple of years, I worry about the state of the dressing room, the discipline and our organizational identity.

Milan's greatest historically have been great footballers and cool blokes to boot. Not fancy prima donnas. I fear we shall be headed down the route before long.
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Like almost everything in life, it's a two-folded thing.

Surely his haircut isn't the most important thing, nor does it directly influences his career or his displays. Yet, it is a sign. A sign something might not be perfectly well. Just like his comments about sex and his views on life.

And in reality, I must say, not everything seems to go well with the kid. We payed a lot money, really a lot considering how Milan spends in general, for this kid. But so far his displays lack maturity and more effort. Naturally, he's a kid and still has plenty of time; yet I'm under the impression that some other talented but more determinant kid would have grabbed more from the chances Allegri gave him.

Another thing is the overall determination. I think that hair- and appearance rules make sense. Why does a coach have to comply to a dress code?

As I remember correctly, Berlusconi prompted both Dida and Ronaldo to grow normal hair. And don't mention Dida, his haircuts coincidences with his rapid downfall in quality.

Another thing is - you guys mention Dida and Ronaldo - both superstars. I think we can all agree that El Shaarawy should rather follow their footsteps in footballing terms. When he reaches the level Ronaldo or Dida had, he can shave his head or paint it or do whatever he wants.

In general Milan changed. I think a lot of us here are a bit bothered how things look; many of us not being accustomed to ridiculous/teenage comments about sex (Boateng, El Shaarawy), haircuts (Robinho - every summer same story), etc. While at the same time all these mentioned players display at best questionable performances.

In the end, the management is at fault as well. They had a good chance to grow a new breed of Milan players along with Nesta, Maldini, Costacurta and the others. Those legends really played long enough to teach and coach younger players, to pass their wisdom. Yet, bad scouting, a not so impressive primavera school and missed opportunities lead us now to a squad that has almost nothing in common with the likes of Baresi, Maldini or Costacurta.
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