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post Aug 21 2012, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 21 2012, 08:45 PM) *
How do you know that? How can you know what Allegri would kill for?


Anyone who's regularly seen Milan in the last two years can easily deduce that Allegri liked Cassano.
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post Aug 21 2012, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 21 2012, 11:34 PM) *
Anyone who's regularly seen Milan in the last two years can easily deduce that Allegri liked Cassano.

You can turn that around in a blink of an eye. Look at this:

Anyone who's regularly seen Milan in the last two years can easily deduce that Allegri can't handle creativity.
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post Aug 21 2012, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 21 2012, 03:53 PM) *
I don't mean to sound petty or cheap, but could I then post the same argument against the vitriol you spouted for the Rangers players who bailed?


Difference is he hasn't bailed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) he's actually taken the harder route. They took the easy way out, he could have stayed, picked up a paycheque and guaranteed a place up front. Different kettle of fish in my eyes.

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They were leaving a 'sinking ship' too weren't they.


No, they decided Rangers were dead and departed without a word of regret.

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Except it isn't about just what they 'want'...but also what they 'owe'. And in my book, Cassano still has a lot of unpaid dues to Milan. We adopted a pariah, and almost restored his reputation. Stood by a serious illness, and 6 months later, he actually bit the hand that raised him off the garbage heap.


I'll leave this. I've never seen you so passionate about something you believe in, and I entirely disagree with your opinion. So it's best we part our separate ways on it.
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post Aug 22 2012, 01:37 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 22 2012, 12:41 AM) *
You can turn that around in a blink of an eye. Look at this:

Anyone who's regularly seen Milan in the last two years can easily deduce that Allegri can't handle creativity.


I don't get what you're trying to say.

Allegri has played Cassano in so many games, even when there were other choices on the bench. He's never given the impression of disliking the guy, like he's done with Pato, Ronaldinho or Mexes. Furthermore, I think he wanted Cassano to stay because his system requires a creative force in the attacking trio. And with Ibra gone, Cassano was the only one left who could do it. Now we have two prima punta's, two movement strikers and an "uncreative" trequartista. Hell I know how this is going to work!
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post Aug 22 2012, 04:02 AM
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Well let's just say that Allegri had no choice but to play and start Cassano. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) A big name Italian rotting on the bench, oh the horror. It just can't happen. And well credit to the guy he did put in some pretty decent displays when creating chances for out forwards. But imagine if his name was Ronaldinho, he'd be pushed out with a hitch.

It's perfectly clear Allegri likes and prefers players with hustle, to keep the intensity going. As I recall saying two years back when the guy first signed for us, Allegri is just not used to coaching highly creative players in the small clubs he came from. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) It's a given he'll put precedence for strong dynamic players instead of lazy creative ones.

He'd rather not tinker with the system to sign and make way for creative and visionary players. Unless, they are exotically named ones like Kaka, Cassano and more. Ibra, as noted above, was a one-man force. So he doesn't count, the guy could do pretty much everything on his own.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 22 2012, 02:37 AM) *
I don't get what you're trying to say.

Allegri has played Cassano in so many games, even when there were other choices on the bench. He's never given the impression of disliking the guy, like he's done with Pato, Ronaldinho or Mexes. Furthermore, I think he wanted Cassano to stay because his system requires a creative force in the attacking trio. And with Ibra gone, Cassano was the only one left who could do it. Now we have two prima punta's, two movement strikers and an "uncreative" trequartista. Hell I know how this is going to work!

I didn't get it that way. Like acid said, there weren't that many options Allegri had. But we'll see what Cassano will tell us.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 22 2012, 04:16 AM) *
I'll leave this. I've never seen you so passionate about something you believe in, and I entirely disagree with your opinion. So it's best we part our separate ways on it.


Well I don't understand how you're disagreeing. Perhaps your reason for supporting Milan are different, but for me we shouldn't disagree because:

1. This is almost exactly the same as what RvP has done. In a way worse, because RvP can claim he left to a much stronger team. Inter are not exactly the Man Utd to our Arsenal are they?

2. Put this into context, how would you feel if any of your Rangers players had not only upped and left ship, but actually joined Celtic.


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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 22 2012, 11:54 AM) *
Well I don't understand how you're disagreeing. Perhaps your reason for supporting Milan are different, but for me we shouldn't disagree because:

1. This is almost exactly the same as what RvP has done. In a way worse, because RvP can claim he left to a much stronger team. Inter are not exactly the Man Utd to our Arsenal are they?

2. Put this into context, how would you feel if any of your Rangers players had not only upped and left ship, but actually joined Celtic.


Jack, drop it. I don't want to discuss this issue any further. You have your opinion which I respect, but I don't agree with it. Don't try to force it on me! Thank you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 22 2012, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 22 2012, 11:54 AM) *
Perhaps your reason for supporting Milan are different,


I love the team, same as you do. I'd prefer we don't start waving e-penises about who supports the club for whatever reasons?
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^^Ok. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Mine's bigger. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 22 2012, 01:49 PM) *


I've seen yours. Well, with the aid of a microscope. I win this one. Only need a magnifying glass for mine.
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Not microscope. Telescope. Coz it's so big, it ends up somewhere in outerspace.

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I hope none of our female members log on anytime soon.
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post Aug 22 2012, 03:52 PM
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Jack, you'll be shocked to hear this, but I may have changed my mind on Cassano. I remember something he said when he joined us. Said Milan were the closest thing to heaven for him. Now he is saying Inter is the club of his heart.

He is a lying, 2 faced piece of shite and he can go to hell.

(this is not to say I totally back off from what I said before about him leaving, but the quotes he's come out with about 'the only team I ever wanted to play for' type thing REALLY wind me up)
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post Aug 22 2012, 04:19 PM
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Upon signing, players say wat fans want to here. As I alluded to in another thread, loyalty in football only goes so far as the club paying the player lots and the club winning lots.
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 22 2012, 05:19 PM) *
Upon signing, players say wat fans want to here. As I alluded to in another thread, loyalty in football only goes so far as the club paying the player lots and the club winning lots.

This is different. Read the interview he gave when we signed him above, read the words he said when he recovered. Then read his Inter-message. It's like 10 years passes in between.
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