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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 20 2012, 02:56 PM) *
Last I read was that Galliani had meeting with Cassano and all was ok by then, and this was just a few days ago. I don't remember anything about Allegri convincing anyone.

As for the pay rise, I hear he'll be lowering his wage at Inter. So I call BS. Sure he probably wanted an extension but a substantial pay rise?


Now you're inventing stuff, han. No such thing ever happened, not that I recall. There was an article on Sportmediaset a few days ago which said Cassano had decided to stay with us until 2013, which turns out to have been another media invention. Allegri above everyone else would have killed to keep Cassano, but the scum has set his mind on leaving.

Also, let's wait for the official numbers before we call anything BS. So far, everyone knows that Cassano's reason for leaving is because he wanted to be the most paid player in the team after Thiago and Ibra left. That's why he doesn't "feel part of the project", not because Allegri doesn't have faith in him or anything.
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New rumours are that we have agreed terms for Pazzini at 2.7 million a year. Now it's left for the clubs to find an agreement.

I dunno, but cash + Cassano seems just wrong.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 20 2012, 05:26 PM) *
I dunno, but cash + Cassano seems just wrong.


Aye, that's the most perplexing thing about it.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 20 2012, 04:22 PM) *
Now you're inventing stuff, han. No such thing ever happened, not that I recall. There was an article on Sportmediaset a few days ago which said Cassano had decided to stay with us until 2013, which turns out to have been another media invention. Allegri above everyone else would have killed to keep Cassano, but the scum has set his mind on leaving.

Also, let's wait for the official numbers before we call anything BS. So far, everyone knows that Cassano's reason for leaving is because he wanted to be the most paid player in the team after Thiago and Ibra left. That's why he doesn't "feel part of the project", not because Allegri doesn't have faith in him or anything.

We're talking about the same thing but I thought that the meeting between Galliani and Cassano was something that actually happened.

And I can really see Allegri crying over Cassano (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) He's probably salivating about the prospect of playing Prince upfront and Urby behind the front 2
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 20 2012, 05:50 PM) *
And I can really see Allegri crying over Cassano (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) He's probably salivating about the prospect of playing Prince upfront and Urby behind the front 2


Now you're just trolling.
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post Aug 20 2012, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 20 2012, 04:51 PM) *
Now you're just trolling.

What can I say, there's nothing better to do atm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

The club is a sinking ship right now, so instead of pulling my hair out I'll direct my frustrations in different directions.
But don't tell me that Allegri wouldn't consider my solution (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Apparently after the transfer is done, Cassano shall 'tell-all'.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 21 2012, 02:39 PM) *
Apparently after the transfer is done, Cassano shall 'tell-all'.

Can't frigging wait. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Nice news to come onto. Another player buggering off. Who can disagree with him if he's leaving due to the state we're in?

tbh he was probably our most expendable forward but we really can't afford to be choosy.

Milan continue to deteriorate into a bad joke.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 20 2012, 06:23 PM) *
The club is a sinking ship right now,


Actually it's already hit the sea bed. The real sh*t hits the fan when the wreck starts to break up totally and disappear.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 21 2012, 07:43 PM) *
Nice news to come onto. Another player buggering off. Who can disagree with him if he's leaving due to the state we're in?


I don't see it this way. To me this is clearly an alleviation of responsibility.

Cassano saying we can't win coz there's no Ibra or Silva, so he's bailing. Even if this is the reason and not that he wants more money....my question would be what's he in for then?

If he's not good enough to take over the slack when someone like Ibra leaves, then he has no business dreaming of big titles. You earn them...you don't walk into a strong team...and then hope for a free pass to the podium. Champions don't do that.

I think of Nesta saying he doesn't feel he deserved the 2006 World Cup coz he didn't play much. And then I think of Cassano. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

I can't believe this. I really use to think of him as a rogue, but a lovable one nonetheless. Just completely gutted by this.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 21 2012, 02:44 PM) *
I don't see it this way. To me this is clearly an alleviation of responsibility.

Cassano saying we can't win coz there's no Ibra or Silva, so he's bailing. Even if this is the reason and not that he wants more money....my question would be what's he in for then?


A team building for the future and not one dismantling itself?

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If he's not good enough to take over the slack when someone like Ibra leaves, then he has no business dreaming of big titles. You earn them...you don't walk into a strong team...and then hope for a free pass to the podium. Champions don't do that.


Actually I think it is to his credit that instead of simply walking into an empty slot without earning it, he objects to the club selling its best players (players keeping him out the team) and leaves himself.

I actually feel that has more credibility than remaining with a failing club just because he gets to play more.

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I think of Nesta saying he doesn't feel he deserved the 2006 World Cup coz he didn't play much. And then I think of Cassano. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

I can't believe this. I really use to think of him as a rogue, but a lovable one nonetheless. Just completely gutted by this.


I knew you would disagree, given the mildly passionate opinion you expressed earlier (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 21 2012, 08:15 PM) *
A team building for the future and not one dismantling itself?


I don't mean to sound petty or cheap, but could I then post the same argument against the vitriol you spouted for the Rangers players who bailed?

They were leaving a 'sinking ship' too weren't they. Except it isn't about just what they 'want'...but also what they 'owe'. And in my book, Cassano still has a lot of unpaid dues to Milan. We adopted a pariah, and almost restored his reputation. Stood by a serious illness, and 6 months later, he actually bit the hand that raised him off the garbage heap.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 20 2012, 10:04 AM) *
And giving a player like Cassano to Inter in exchange for Pazzini, while also being the paying party in the equation is understandable???

We won't get Cesar and Pazzini simply because we'll be the jokers in this entire deal. Cassano is our last creative attacking option, surely you get how dire we are in that area. Letting him go would kill any chances of a decent season. A player like him can be kept in check, if he's given playing time, he'll find his happiness again.

Is it a wonder that all of our big players are suddenly unhappy, while all our senators were none to happy about the situation at Milan? Allegri is the common factor here. He'd be happy with a squad of average players so he can control them as he wishes. If he can't manage to keep 2 players like Mexes and Cassano then what does this say about our future, especially if Galliani has the intention of letting him stay on beyond this season?

And forget about Kaka, he's not coming. It's financially impossible to get him. Galliani wants to get every player on loan with an option to buy, maybe clubs go for that for the likes of Zapata, Constant, Muntari, etc, but certainly not for players like Kaka. And even if we get past the first hurdle of getting Real to practically give him to us for nothing, we'd still be stuck on the wage situation.

Yep, I agree here. Especially with the bold part. But Cassano's sale seems inexplicable. He won't just start feeling "happy" again. And I as a fan think he owes us much more, so even if reason says we need the creativity, I'd rather watch someone else do the job then this ungrateful player.

QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 20 2012, 12:46 PM) *
What would you define that position as?

Attacking midfielder. Forced to be our creative link.

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Now you're inventing stuff, han. No such thing ever happened, not that I recall. There was an article on Sportmediaset a few days ago which said Cassano had decided to stay with us until 2013, which turns out to have been another media invention. Allegri above everyone else would have killed to keep Cassano, but the scum has set his mind on leaving.

Also, let's wait for the official numbers before we call anything BS. So far, everyone knows that Cassano's reason for leaving is because he wanted to be the most paid player in the team after Thiago and Ibra left. That's why he doesn't "feel part of the project", not because Allegri doesn't have faith in him or anything.

How do you know that? How can you know what Allegri would kill for?

Also, don't you know that official numbers never come?

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 20 2012, 05:26 PM) *
New rumours are that we have agreed terms for Pazzini at 2.7 million a year. Now it's left for the clubs to find an agreement.

I dunno, but cash + Cassano seems just wrong.

Agreed. It seems like a really bad deal. Throw in Cesar and we're good if you ask me.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 21 2012, 09:45 PM) *
Agreed. It seems like a really bad deal. Throw in Cesar and we're good if you ask me.


I thought Cesar is a free agent!!:O
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