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post Jun 10 2012, 07:31 PM
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My hatred for Pirlo is at such an elevated apex I fear my hate is now unsustainable and will only decrease (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


The guy played the most languid, nonchalant, pedestrian football in his last days at Milan only to awaken his 2002-07 form for ladri and Italy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) . I can't remember the last time I saw him running so much and tackling so well. If this guy was on fire I'd be reluctant to piss on him


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post Jun 10 2012, 11:29 PM
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fwiw Dru, I can't stand the fucker any more either. I think he's burned his bridges with us quite badly now, and was one of the few Italian players I wanted to perform poorly.
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post Jun 10 2012, 11:40 PM
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My views are still PG about Pirlo, but yeah I am and have been in your camp for some time now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) In fact, here I was wanting him to stay last year and us shaking hands with Seedorf instead. And here we are a year later. Every time he opens his beak there is malice for Milan, and after playing like a fairy for us, he's turned into a fighter.

Not that I will forget all the good he did for us while Pirlo was here, but I don't care how he does the moment he turned to Juventus. I've been saying for a while, anyone but Juventus. Going there, you're just strengthening our direct most domestic competitor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Pirlo, Borriello, so on and so forth.

I'd hate for us to wait another 5 years for a Scudetto, now that we so horribly let one past this year.
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post Jun 11 2012, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Jun 10 2012, 10:40 PM) *
My views are still PG about Pirlo, but yeah I am and have been in your camp for some time now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) In fact, here I was wanting him to stay last year and us shaking hands with Seedorf instead. And here we are a year later. Every time he opens his beak there is malice for Milan, and after playing like a fairy for us, he's turned into a fighter.

Not that I will forget all the good he did for us while Pirlo was here, but I don't care how he does the moment he turned to Juventus. I've been saying for a while, anyone but Juventus. Going there, you're just strengthening our direct most domestic competitor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Pirlo, Borriello, so on and so forth.

I'd hate for us to wait another 5 years for a Scudetto, now that we so horribly let one past this year.

I agree with you here.

I still feel that what the management did with Pirlo was one of the biggest brain farts they've commited over the past decade. I mean what sane idiot would let a player like Pirlo go for free to a team like Juve FFS!! And the fact that they won the Scudetto over us thanks hugely in part to Pirlo just proves this. I mean if they really didn't want him than they should have just sold him to Chelsea when Carlo wanted him and we would have gotten actual money for him!

But with that being said, what he's being saying to the press has left a bitter feeling and his next outing at the San Siro will be an ugly one imo. He's just p!ssed on whatever loyalties any Milan fans might still have had for him
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post Jun 11 2012, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 11 2012, 10:27 AM) *
what he's being saying to the press...

what has he been saying? I have not read about it.
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post Jun 11 2012, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 11 2012, 09:27 AM) *
I agree with you here.

I still feel that what the management did with Pirlo was one of the biggest brain farts they've commited over the past decade. I mean what sane idiot would let a player like Pirlo go for free to a team like Juve FFS!! And the fact that they won the Scudetto over us thanks hugely in part to Pirlo just proves this. I mean if they really didn't want him than they should have just sold him to Chelsea when Carlo wanted him and we would have gotten actual money for him!

But with that being said, what he's being saying to the press has left a bitter feeling and his next outing at the San Siro will be an ugly one imo. He's just p!ssed on whatever loyalties any Milan fans might still have had for him

Han, you know I love Andy as much as you and I'm mostly with you. But...we didn't let Pirlo join Juventus, he was the one who chose Juventus. We didn't offer as much as Pirlo wanted, Allegri said we can do without him. So it isn't just our idiocy, it was also his spite.

This vengeance I can understand, but it's taken him too far. Not only his interviews, but also the way he behaved in the semifinal, where he elbowed his former teammates without even blinking.

And the last thing I wanna say: do you han really believe we should have kept Pirlo when Allegri obviously didn't have plans for him? I must say, in the current formation and system Milan plays, we could have needed Andy, but - I really cannot imagine Pirlo playing. That said, it would have been painful for me to watch Pirlo turn into a 10 minutes sub.
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post Jun 11 2012, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 11 2012, 10:52 AM) *
Han, you know I love Andy as much as you and I'm mostly with you. But...we didn't let Pirlo join Juventus, he was the one who chose Juventus. We didn't offer as much as Pirlo wanted, Allegri said we can do without him. So it isn't just our idiocy, it was also his spite.

This vengeance I can understand, but it's taken him too far. Not only his interviews, but also the way he behaved in the semifinal, where he elbowed his former teammates without even blinking.

And the last thing I wanna say: do you han really believe we should have kept Pirlo when Allegri obviously didn't have plans for him? I must say, in the current formation and system Milan plays, we could have needed Andy, but - I really cannot imagine Pirlo playing. That said, it would have been painful for me to watch Pirlo turn into a 10 minutes sub.

Anything other than let a player like him go for free. Money wasn't really the case, as he barely earns half of what he did with us at Juve now. I would have signed him on still. Allegri is a 2 minute man, most of these players have been with us for more than a decade. The issue was contract length but mostly Allegri. The management letting Allegri turn this team into a mid table quality team is another issue that we could spend weeks debating about. Galliani bending to Allegri's will by letting players like Dinho and Pirlo leave so easily is just a whole other issue. Or if the management had no intention of re-signing him they should have just sold him to Chelsea when we had the chance. Yes we couldn't have known that Allegri wouldn't want him, but you don't let the contract of a player of Pirlo's caliber run to the final months either, so that was a mistake in and of itself

If the management and Pirlo reached an agreement, then yes! Since when does a coach at Milan get to dictate so much? Not even Carlo had as much power and say. And because Allegri decides that he wants to shun club legends than it's ok?

Like I said, Allegri is a 2 minute man, another failure this season and he's out on his @ss. A player is worth more than him. Would you be willing to sell Ibra for example to keep Allegri? F@ck no!! Ibra is the sole reason we managed to stay competitive this season, certainly not Allegri and his backwards thinking

@ dst, just a bunch of BS about Milan and why he thinks Juve is so great bla bla bla
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post Jun 11 2012, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 11 2012, 11:52 AM) *
This vengeance I can understand, but it's taken him too far. Not only his interviews, but also the way he behaved in the semifinal, where he elbowed his former teammates without even blinking.


Semi-final? You mean the Serie A game at the San Siro, where he supposedly elbowed van Bommel twice. I can't remember him reserving the same treatment to anyone else of his former teammates, so he was probably just discharging his frustration against the person who took his place.
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post Jun 11 2012, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 11 2012, 01:30 PM) *
Semi-final? You mean the Serie A game at the San Siro, where he supposedly elbowed van Bommel twice. I can't remember him reserving the same treatment to anyone else of his former teammates, so he was probably just discharging his frustration against the person who took his place.

Semifinal of the Coppa and the Serie A match. He did not "just" elbow Bommel (which is enough already, no matter if he took his position or not), he dived, gesticulated nervously and I'm pretty sure he elbowed Seedorf as well.

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If the management and Pirlo reached an agreement, then yes! Since when does a coach at Milan get to dictate so much? Not even Carlo had as much power and say. And because Allegri decides that he wants to shun club legends than it's ok?

Since we got rid of the Mr. Nice Guys like Carlo. If Allegri said - look, you can keep Pirlo, but I have a different plan, what's the point in keeping him?
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post Jun 11 2012, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 11 2012, 01:46 PM) *
Semifinal of the Coppa and the Serie A match. He did not "just" elbow Bommel (which is enough already, no matter if he took his position or not), he dived, gesticulated nervously and I'm pretty sure he elbowed Seedorf as well.


I don't remember anything from the Coppa Italia semi-final, but there was a big fuss about Pirlo elbowing van Bommel twice in the Serie A match that ended 1-1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLMes3EdLGs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAZtEfTYiyc
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post Jun 11 2012, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 11 2012, 04:46 PM) *
Semifinal of the Coppa and the Serie A match. He did not "just" elbow Bommel (which is enough already, no matter if he took his position or not), he dived, gesticulated nervously and I'm pretty sure he elbowed Seedorf as well.

Aye. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Very true. He has had a bug against Milan players (almost) every time we played Juventus.
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post Jun 11 2012, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Jun 11 2012, 03:06 PM) *
Aye. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Very true. He has had a bug against Milan players (almost) every time we played Juventus.


No, he didn't. It was only van Bommel. He didn't elbow Seedorf, nor did he seem to have a problem with any of his old teammates.
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post Jun 11 2012, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 11 2012, 06:57 PM) *
No, he didn't. It was only van Bommel. He didn't elbow Seedorf, nor did he seem to have a problem with any of his old teammates.

By bug I did not mean violence against Milan players. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Just that Pirlo wanted to prove a point to his former teammates. I watched that whole match live and no one in the Juventus team had a bigger desire to defeat us than this guy. What, oh what, happened to the good old respect to a club that made him what he was.

And no, before anyone says that Milan did not make him, it did. Just like it made Kaka, is trying to making Pato and will continue turning future players into superstars. Even if Pirlo was in Roma or a smaller club he'd probably never have had the exposure that was afforded to him because of being in a high caliber club. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) This much is fact.
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post Jun 11 2012, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Jun 11 2012, 04:16 PM) *
By bug I did not mean violence against Milan players. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Just that Pirlo wanted to prove a point to his former teammates. I watched that whole match live and no one in the Juventus team had a bigger desire to defeat us than this guy. What, oh what, happened to the good old respect to a club that made him what he was.


So? What's wrong about a player proving his former club wrong about not wanting him anymore. Seriously, you guys are blowing this whole Pirlo business out of proportions.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 11 2012, 05:29 PM) *
So? What's wrong about a player proving his former club wrong about not wanting him anymore. Seriously, you guys are blowing this whole Pirlo business out of proportions.

And what would be the proper proportion? Maybe every small incident looks harmless by itself, but all together, his attitude, the elbowing, the interviews and statements...it sure did not help him appear classy.
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