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Jack Bauer
post Apr 4 2012, 09:14 AM
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Though you did wanted him to start.

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Normally I would say Pato shouldn't play when he's been in and out of action for so long. but then I think about Robinho and his big misses, and El Sha and his vast inexperience, and I say screw it, play the Duck! he hasn't really disappointed against the Spanish duo before.
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post Apr 4 2012, 10:15 AM
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But I didn't know about his physical situation, the coaches knew.
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post Apr 4 2012, 10:21 AM
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And they thought that he's fit enough to play. The quote from few days ago: "he is in good if not excellent condition"
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post Apr 4 2012, 10:40 AM
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That's the problem, our doctors are complete idiots. "thought" he's fit enough? he barely lasted 15 minutes FFS... I don't know why but I trusted them when they said he's in good shape, hence suggesting he should start.

You can't say Max was fooled by our doctors too, though. he observes the players during trainings, if Pato looked as unfit and he did during those minutes Max should never have risked on him. especially with Maxi and El Sha on bench.
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post Apr 4 2012, 11:00 AM
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Max wouldn't play him if Pato didn't look good in the training sessions before the game. But doctors or not, IMO he should't have been in the squad for the game to begin with. We should have waited with him till he's 200% ready.
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post Apr 4 2012, 12:14 PM
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He looked rusty as usual, I don't know what he showed in the training that convinced Max to play him... IMO Max did it out of sheer desperation and it backfired badly. I think he made a mistake but I'm not blaming him for it, it's just a very confusing situation with Pato.
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post Apr 4 2012, 01:26 PM
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As a big Pato fan I'm losing patience with this situation. Hopefully it will go away with the recommendations of the Americans. This Milan team needs someone like Pato (sans the injuries of course). iBra alone is not enough. In fact people are given a false sense of security by his performances against the lower calibre teams to think he can hack it against the big boys.

If we can't help the duck help us then let another team get a crack. But we need a Pato/Messi/Robben/Neymar/Robinho-who-can-finish- type player....a player who can run at the defense at PACE and cause havoc and create channels for the other attackers
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post Apr 4 2012, 01:30 PM
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I think we should all let this rest for a bit.

It's obvious that inclusion of Pato in the team was pre-mature, let alone to push him into the game when the entire team had already seemingly given up on it. It's obvious that whatever treatments he should have had were pushed back so he could get back into the team. Going from, his season is over, to he'll be back in 3 days just does not make any sense
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post Apr 4 2012, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE (drucurl @ Apr 4 2012, 05:26 PM) *
a player who can run at the defense at PACE and cause havoc and create channels for the other attackers

+1. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) So very true!
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post Apr 4 2012, 03:29 PM
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Pato was in excellent condition, and his problem supposedly had been resolved, we were told before the match. Allegri saw him in training and was convinced to bring him on the bench. I don't see any problem in playing him for the last 20 minutes or so. But to get injured again so quickly? Meh... We're back to square one. Broken.

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post Apr 4 2012, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 4 2012, 05:29 PM) *
Pato was in excellent condition, and his problem supposedly had been resolved, we were told before the match. Allegri saw him in training and was convinced to bring him on the bench. I don't see any problem in playing him for the last 20 minutes or so. But to get injured again so quickly? Meh... We're back to square one. Broken.


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post Apr 4 2012, 03:50 PM
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I don't get it, how could he be in "excellent shape" if he couldn't last 15 minutes in the game without getting injured? turns out what they said about him being in good shape was total nonsense.

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Care to explain how? by flying to the US, visiting a specialist and coming back?

He was there barely enough to get any serious treatments. I don't think you can make a problem that has been persisting for three years disappear in two week's time. not in the real world anyway.
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post Apr 4 2012, 03:53 PM
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Nah, his problem supposedly had been diagnosed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The just pinpointed the reason where he was getting most of his injuries, but the full treatment will take a while to start. Maybe during the summer break.
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post Apr 4 2012, 07:21 PM
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He was in excellent condition meaning his last injury (the one he suffered against Juventus, about a month and a half ago) had been treated. He was not match fit, but anyone can play 20 minutes with two days of training. And I'm just speaking for what the medics told us after his return. OK, his problem apparently hasn't been solved yet, he'll keep getting injured until a further date. But it's mind-blowing that someone can get injured so often and so quickly after a recovery, time after time after time. I don't think I've seen anything of the sorts during my 12 years of following football.
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post Apr 4 2012, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 4 2012, 10:51 PM) *
I don't think I've seen anything of the sorts during my 12 years of following football.


Me neither. and it happened to my favorite young player. goes to show you how much I think it sucks.

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Maybe during the summer break.


But is there enough time to do it during the summer...? I wish they'd start it right now. he can't salvage this nightmare of a season no matter what he does.
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