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post Feb 26 2012, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 26 2012, 04:58 PM) *
^ You're joking, right? That's a matter of centimeters. If you wanna be that anal, then there's no point in debating.

The point being is that it's debatable. I didn't think it was onside when I first saw it simply because Matri's head is slightly ahead of the rest of the line.

Unlike our goal where there shouldn't even be a debate about it and whether it's just as equal to Juve's goal
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post Feb 26 2012, 05:08 PM
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I think there's no debate about it. In these circumstances, when it's only a matter of centimeters, the linesman should always let the game proceed.
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post Feb 26 2012, 05:13 PM
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post Feb 26 2012, 05:19 PM
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I think this match won't mean a thing when we win the scudetto comfartably and Juve keep drawing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Feb 26 2012, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 26 2012, 03:02 PM) *
Inter? I wouldn't bet on it. personally I'd go with Napoli (they haven't played Juve yet, right?)

I don't know man, stuff happens, okay? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) I remember the weak Juventus from a couple of years back, handing it out to a very strong inter, even though no one expected them to. Napoli is another strong contender to land the killer blow, but I still wouldn't count the guys in blue and black out. They take it very personally!
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 26 2012, 12:28 PM) *
I don't know man, stuff happens, okay? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) I remember the weak Juventus from a couple of years back, handing it out to a very strong inter, even though no one expected them to. Napoli is another strong contender to land the killer blow, but I still wouldn't count the guys in blue and black out. They take it very personally!

Agreed.

Derbies are different kinda games!

See Roma inter & as acid said Juve inter a couple years ago.

We can still win this scudetto, as long as we play exceptionally well, because we all know Juve is NOT going to win all their remaining games!
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 26 2012, 03:58 PM) *
^ You're joking, right? That's a matter of centimeters. If you wanna be that anal, then there's no point in debating.


Wasn't it Ibra who was called offside not so long ago because his head was over the line? It's not about being anal it's about the laws of the game. If Matri was even 1cm over the line then he is offside and the decision is correct, while ours is clearly the wrong decision.
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post Feb 26 2012, 07:16 PM
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post Feb 26 2012, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Feb 26 2012, 07:10 PM) *
Wasn't it Ibra who was called offside not so long ago because his head was over the line? It's not about being anal it's about the laws of the game. If Matri was even 1cm over the line then he is offside and the decision is correct, while ours is clearly the wrong decision.


UEFA explicitly says that in case of doubt, the linesman should let the game proceed. When Matri was 10-15 cm offside, and the linesman clearly could not see such minimal difference, then he shouldn't have stopped the game. Look, the last thing I wanna do is defend those cheating bastards, but we have to be objective and admit it was a regular goal.
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post Feb 26 2012, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 26 2012, 06:32 PM) *
UEFA explicitly says that in case of doubt, the linesman should let the game proceed. When Matri was 10-15 cm offside, and the linesman clearly could not see such minimal difference, then he shouldn't have stopped the game. Look, the last thing I wanna do is defend those cheating bastards, but we have to be objective and admit it was a regular goal.

Yeah it should never have been disallowed. I think the linesman probably saw video of the mistake he made in the first half and that played in the back of his mind when Matri went through.
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post Feb 26 2012, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 26 2012, 07:53 PM) *
Yeah it should never have been disallowed. I think the linesman probably saw video of the mistake he made in the first half and that played in the back of his mind when Matri went through.


Exactly.
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post Feb 26 2012, 08:05 PM
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The goal was coming either way,did that goal mean that Juve could have won against us?They scored 5 minutes after,and still didn't manage to create any opportunities.All I'm saying that those refereeing mistakes create all those "what if" situations which can be misleading.If,we were up 2-0,game was gonna be a lot different,Juve might have scored 3,or not.We don't know.And,if Matri scored that goal,it could have ended 1-1 anyway.
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We were lucky Conte made some awful selections. Matri and Vucinic on the bench with Quags and Borriello starting?
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All errors are not equal

Antonio Conte claims the two refereeing errors were equal, but Susy Campanale points out there’s a big difference.

So the Scudetto showdown was all square at San Siro, a point each and the title race remains in the balance. Such a shame a really entertaining game of football was overshadowed by refereeing mistakes. Even worse, the controversy dragged on after the final whistle with Antonio Conte’s refusal to understand a simple fact: the two errors were not equal.

Conte went on Sky Sport Italia after the match and engaged in a row with pundit and former Milan star Zvonimir Boban. “I find it unacceptable that you can compare the two and say one error was more damaging than the other. Both goals were incorrectly disallowed and are therefore equal. What, was our goal not worth as much? I see no difference whatsoever. They were both mistakes.”

Not all errors are equal, Antonio. When the entire stadium, viewing audience and even the referee – who started walking towards the centre circle until he spotted his linesman standing still – saw the ball cross the line by an arm’s length, then it is a massive, horrific, embarrassing mistake. It’s the kind of howler that forces people to demand video evidence in match situations and complain that Sepp Blatter is holding the sport back by resisting technology.

When Alessandro Matri is in line with the group of Milan players rushing in one direction as he moves in the other, then it’s a mistake, but one that happens often and is understandable. It seems to be only Juventus who go on every media outlet to complain loudly that something like this, or the other not exactly stonewall penalties they didn’t receive in their favour over recent weeks, is a sign of officials purposefully damaging the club.

Conte and his whinging Juve cohorts thought they were protecting the side by protesting at refereeing errors. Instead, they set the scene whereby such a massive mistake in their favour allows cynics to say it was because the linesman was affected by the constant atmosphere of moaning. ‘Of course Juventus were going to get the decision in their favour after all the fuss they kicked up,’ people will shout.

That’s not even mentioning the fact Milan would’ve gone 2-0 up in the first half when they were dominating the game, whereas Matri did equalise just moments after his goal was disallowed.

I’m afraid the reaction to these two incidents has really not helped Conte’s cause. If he can’t even admit the errors are nowhere near on the same scale, then how can he win back the respect of those cynics? Even the most ardent Juventus fan must admit those two incidents did not have an equal effect on the game, nor were they on a par in any other way.

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