It would be crazy not to sell him for that amount,how much could we get for him in the future?Not much more I would say.

But,Galliani has came out and sad that there is no contact with PSG at all.

Exactly my point, although he did do his best to keep Sheva but Sheva(or his missus if you want to believe that) wanted Chelsea.

I don't think Kaka was ever really one of Silvio's favourites. He was happy to keep him when he was our only major star, but took the money when it was offered from a team that Kaka, inreality, had no problems going to. Had Kaka not wanted to be sold than he would still be a Milan player.


Him banging Barbara could be a blessing for us, maybe you don't see it now but it will show in the future, I am sure of this. Pato will come good and selling him now would be a pre-mature move from our management.

Also, Sheva was the one who pushed for the transfer, while Kaka was more than happy to go to Real when the time came. The management have never pushed a player out or forced him to stay. It's the Milan way.

x-off you mentioned our forward line of Ibra, Tevez, Robs and Cassano yet you fail to acknowledge the ages of those players. Pato is our future, while all of those players (except for Tevez who isn't even a Milan player yet) are at an advanced age for a striker. I really don;t get this shift in attitude towards Pato from some of you, you'd think he missed a sitter from a yard out against Barca to push fourth such hate from you guys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

It could really go either way. It could mean we keep hold of him and he becomes the beast we all hoped he would. Or he knows he's at Milan to stay regardless of what happens so doesn't see why he needs to bother trying.

I really don't believe that he's with her simply to get a free pass. I'm sure he has far bigger aspirations than being someone's arm candy for big society events in Milan.

The fact is he's still a hot comodity in Europe despite his injury troubles and could easily go to some Sheik owned team with money to throw away and get a huge pay day. If the PSG offer is to be believed he could be on a sky high salary playing in a much more forward friendly league than the Serie A. Meaning he can earn far more than he does at Milan with little to no effort if he desired.

The reason I'm fighting so hard on this issue is because I do believe he will come good. The only issue in regards to this is the injuries, not his desire to do so. Whether those can be overcome is another matter. But nothing would pain me more than seeing him do well at another team after we gave up on him so easily.

Sorry for beinging Ambro up but I have to because the situation is similar. Ambro was a very injury prone player in his 20s, he was more injured than not, yet the club never gave up on him. No there never were any mega offers for him, but still they could have easily sold him to some Serie A club but they didn't do that. Which is why I trust that as long as Pato is happy to stay at Milan, the club won't even think of selling him, Barbara or no Barbara

You believe Galliani would think twice if PSG really offered us €58 million? They haven't made the offer official yet, and that's what Galliani's been constantly saying in the last few days. He's never said "Pato doesn't have a price tag" or something similar. He even went out and said "if the player wants to leave, and the offer is good, we won't keep him against his will". Those are clear signs of someone pushing the bidder to make a good offer. Even Silvio would drool at those kind of money.

That attacking line might not be exactly young, but they're all players in their full maturities that could bring us some nice silverware for the next 3-4 years. I hardly believe not selling Pato would make us stronger in the long run. He's not a player that makes a difference on his own, like Sheva, Kaká and Ibra.

Right now he's not that, but he could be in the future.

Galliani can say whatever he likes, but in the end it is Silvio's decision and he seems to be behind Pato 100%. Galliani said that Kaka did not have a price tag either, yet look where he is now when Real and City came waving the cash at him and Silvio did not care either way imo. If Sheva had not wanted to leave than he wouldn't have been sold no matter how much money Chelsea would have offered. Silvio is clearly the one that approves such deals.

Instant gratification will only take us so far. We're still not going to win the CL unless we improve the other departments, and big money like that is rarely spent on improving the squad but rather going into paying off depths, I think we've learnt this the hard way after we thought we'd see huge overhauls when we got the money from Sheva and Kaka, yet nothing really happened. Zlatan and Robinho only came due to the opportunity they presented to Galliani because of problems with their clubs, if they had still been doing well at their respective clubs than they wouldn't be Milan players today, no matter what amounts of money we made from Kaka

Like I said, even Silvio would drool at that kind of money. Of course, if he doesn't want to sell him, then nothing will happen.

If we sell Pato for €58 million, then we'll definitely sign Tevez right now, and most probably a few necessary touches will be made in summer as well. For instance, we've already expressed our interest in Eriksen. If we get the extra cash, the more incentive to sign him. I'm not expecting us to do what Liverpool did with the money they got from Torres or what Atletico did with the money they got from Aguero, but it's inevitable that some of that cash will be splashed on the market, and some will be kept for paying off debts etc.

I'd rather keep Pato and let Robinho go if Tevez came. with Cassano out for 6 more months I don't think it's worth the risk to wait for him to come back and produce instant magic (I doubt he will be able to do that anytime soon if ever again) stick with Robinho (who's been anything but spectacular) and get rid of Pato of all the people. not to mention signing Tevez could turn out to be a mistake one way or another and in that case we could end up in a ****ed situation.

Beside that, I don't like the idea of Milan becoming a selling club more than this one bit. Sheva, Kaka, Pato and who knows, Silva could be next in the line. if we get a 50m offer for the Duck, some other rich club will put 70 on the table for Silva one day. the MGMT must resist giving the impression to other clubs (especially nobody clubs like PSG and City) that they can take our best players away anytime they want. I have a big problem with this, I don't know why most of you would be happy to let it happen...

Completely with you.

For me it's just ridiculous that we're even debating the idea of selling Pato, yet no one has talked about Robinho, or the potential disaster that could be Tevez in the future

@ x-off, you have absolutely no gaurantee that we'd be buying those players with any money we'd get from Pato's sale.

I'd rather get Tevez now for whatever deal Galliani can cook up, sell Robinho next summer and get Eriksen with that moeny. That makes a lot more sense than selling Pato.

The LB situation can be easily solved, we really don't need to be getting someone flashy, simple dependable FB from Serie A will more than suffice, and who knows, maybe given a decent run Taiwo could come good

He'll accept it if they stay together - if it threatens to cause serious problems he'll stay. Frankly family (as long as your family is decent) is more important than football, and anyone who thinks he 'should go feck himself' clearly thinks football matters more than your own daughter. If you have one.

Any father would prioritise their daughter and a potential grand child over money.

We're talking about Berlusconi here.

What about him? as far as I'm concerned he's a Don (like Don Corleone!) and they do value family above anything (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I think he might actually care the relationship and the baby duck.

Agreed, he might not care about the wives, but he certainly does about his children, and he also trusts them given their high positions in his businesses. I think this Pato talk is a moot point atm. He's not going anywhere as long as he's giving Barbara a good time, after all she is a director at the club atm, and has more say than Galliani as well.

And personally I feel all this talk was BS to begin with, Galliani has said once again that there is absolutely no contact with PSG, while his agent's talk of it being an enticing offer only means one thing for me, they want a new and better contract for Pato. And most of the news has seemingly died down now that Pato's comments about Allegri have been buried under new headlines