Are you serious? You seriously think Brazilian players are "usually" done by 28?? This is plainly ridiculous!! I won't even bother listing up names that would prove you wrong...but this one made me laugh loudly. Their genetic clock is different, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

As for changing coaches, yes - it is a viable point. Still, if you are class you'll adapt, no matter how many coaches are lined-up.

Yup, more than the different personals (coaches) he's had to adapt to playing styles (systems). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Huntelaar was playing on the right wing, for Pete's sake. Sometimes we were focusing on a closed, defending game, other times it was all out attack. Bigger, more established players often have it hard to adapt, let alone a young guy like Pato.

If you are doing three different roles at once in a film, chances are one is going to be better than the others, another one may be so-so. Not many actors can do that and say the excelled at both. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Throw in the constant injuries, and you've got yourself the Curious Case of the Duck at your hand.

The talent and goals are not at doubt - the application and attention are. I'll give him another 3 years to find out.


He's done what he can, IMHO. Still more effort is needed, yes, but hopefully that's incoming. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) He is class, no doubt about it, it's just the fact how much (seeing as he hasn't faltered, yet). The next few seasons of course are going to be vital. If the graph of performance can go up as long as the injury chart heads down, we should see improvement.

Here at Milan and the Pato we see at Brazil too. Anyone that says he/she expects more out of the duck has a totally valid point. I do too. Hopefully the player feels the same and gets a chance to show it. This year and the next.

It was just a generic example. I'm not saying it's the same for everyone, but it might be the case for Pato as well, especially when you consider his current attitude, at such a young age.

I don't like Pato's attitude. Sure, his injuries are no help, but I think mentally Pato doesn't have it in him to reach his potential. At young age he was already that good; he was already in Brazil. Since he moved to Milan he didn't get any better, more likely only worse. I expect him to become someone who could have been great, but never became that big. His workrate is so low, and maybe he's too scared for injuries also, which too won't help him to become better. I believe he is working too little, and having too much fun instead.

+1

Especially the last sentence.

He worked overtime last year,and now we're accusing him of having fun...

I think we should just drop it. What's the point of dicussing this? So now Pato is too lazy? His injuries are hs own doing? Just ridiculous. And no matter what happens this season, I'm sure he'll be a Milan player come next season.

It's just as ridiculous to act like he doesn't have an attitude problem and saying he isn't lazy, in my opinion.

Who's saying that he definately does not have one? Imo it's rare to find top players these days who actually don't have an attitude problem...

I don't think he's lazy, he usually tries hard, but fades out when things aren't going his way, that's not lazy. But mentality. I see the same thing with Aquilani for example and Robinho as well. It's just the way some players are, but that's the only problem he has with "attitude" It's not like he goes arounf throwing fits ala Balo/Ibra/etc when things aren't going his way.

But he's certainly not lazy, and as I said above his attitude issue is that he tends to drift out of a game if things are not going well for him. He was after all one of the few players who went in to traning when they were given days off to rest and he's always working hard to regain fitness when he's injured. Saying he's lazy is BS imo

Having fun? Where's the proof for this accusation? Do you see him doing the Adriano or Dinho routine?

Him and Barbera have been everywhere, lately.

Gosh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .


Pato looked good today,when he had supply,and looked non existant when we didn't have the ball which is perfectly normal!

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As long as he keeps her happy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

Nonsense. Nothing irregular with that. I disapprove their relationship, yet...still nothing drastic happened.

Ignorant is a bliss. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Seems to me the only times when some of these fellows actually follow this thread and write something about Pato is when he's going through a bad patch, so they can can come here and write their nonsense about him.

for example, I remember posting a couple of times articles about him working overtime and showing quite a good attitude, saying he's working harder than ever to overcome his injuries, etc etc. hardly anyone said anything about that! obviously because there was there was nothing to bash him about - neither his work-rate nor attitude or anything else. just roll back the pages and see for yourself. I don't want to sound bitter but that's how it is. it's disappointing to read things like he's "overrated and useless, needs to f*ck off" and "he's chocked in every big game". ain't that just low?

People forget so easy.