Wow,you guys got no patience at all.Pato has been in Milan for years,and he appears committed to it,and to it's project.Yet,you are willing to sell him when we have the chance.When you criticized Milan's managment for selling Kaka.I know Pato is far away from Kaka's leauge yet,but at which age did Kaka peak for us?

Are you serious?



Kaka's impact in his first year at Milan was greater than anything Pato has done in these four years. He was 22 back then.

Funny how I hadn't heard a peep out of anyone after the last 2 games, in which he scored might I add.

People are so fickle it's ridiculous. And saying we should asses after the season is over is even more ridiculous. Like we have any say on the matter. Pato will stay on at Milan, I am sure, no matter how he does this season, and I'm sure that when he does something amazing like he's done in the past on the big stage, all will be forgotten as usual.

EDIT: I'd also like to add that Pato has not regressed. But has been forced to change the way he plays. From that kid in his first season who was a good speedy dribbler with questionable finishing to a finisher who makes fast runs. He's adapted his game in many different manners due to the changes in coaches and playing system. You cannot compare him to Kaka, who came into a very stable winning environment and kept the same coach and system (for the most part) during his entire evolving process

Well,honestly I don't know anything about Kaka's first year,but I got carried on with the analogy ;p

And,about patience,yes I'am.And I'm talking patience for him to perform...He is the best finisher on our team,and he needs supply to suceed.If he isn't touching the ball,that's not his problem imo.Our system is depending on our strikers to drop deep and get the ball to the opponent's half(What Ibra does every match),and having a destructive midfield...

Agreed, this is why Allegri's system is BS imo. Unless the strikers are creating then we won't be scoring. This is why we need a proper AM, to supply the strikers. And the fact that Galliani is doing everything he can to get Tevez instead of looking to purchase a top AM is just astonishing to me

Really? I think we've all been constantly expressing our opinion on Pato over the course of the last two years, of how Pato hasn't yet exploded and how longer should our patience hold. The game against Bologna means nothing to me. Pato should have been a world class striker by now, alongside the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Rooney etc. Yet he's been only regressing, season after season. It's quite clear to everyone.



LOL, Pato, big stage? The guy has scored 4 measly goals in 17 CL appearances. Pato flops big time in the important games, I thought we were all aware of that.

Correct me if I'm wrong but both Rooney and Ronaldo took their sweet @ss time to get to where they are as well. Ronaldo had gone without scoring in the CL for how many seasons before he got his first? Rooney as well scored a hat-trick in his frist CL game then couldn't get a goal to save his life for quite a while. They were the same age as Pato, who is 21 not 25. These things take time, not everyone is Messi FFS.

Not a big game player? Who scored in our biggest Serie A matches last season? And was the most influential player at that. Pato

Real Madrid, Barca. 2 huge games where he scored huge goals. Saying he's a choker is ridiculous as he's our only striker who we can rely on to not go missing on the big stage.

And yes we've all talked constantly about Pato. But it usually happens when he's injured. Which is frustrating, yes, I'm not saying it's not. But he's always come through for us with a great goal average, even when he's out for half a season with injuries. To give up on someone like him simply because he hasn't progressed as fast as we would have liked is just plain laughable. What so we can give him to a team like Madrid and see him doing great things with them? While we're stuck with a nut job like Balotelli? No thanks

First of all, Pato became 22 three months ago. Let's not rejuvenate him for the sake of the argument. Secondly, yes, he is a big time choker! What huge games are you talking about? The Madrid and Barça "friendlies"? The derby against the mediocre Inter of last season? Or maybe the match against a Napoli that had zero shots on goal. Hardly achievements to write home about. No, the crucial games I'm talking about were against Arsenal, United and Tottenham, where our European fate depended on, and which Pato miserably failed each and every one of them. The moment we needed him the most, he simply went on and disappeared.

I wouldn't bash Pato that much and label him a choker. Yeah, Kaka was better and made much more impact at 22, yet, where is he now (I know, it's not his fault)?

I still believe in the duck.

Failing in the CL. Not good enough for Gila. Not good enough to Pato. Ship him out.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Dec 14 2011, 12:14 AM

I still believe in him too, but my patience is starting to reach its limit. If what we should expect from Pato are injuries and blackouts, accompanied by a few good/great performances/goals now and then, then I'd rather sell him and cash in. I've always said it, the guy's main problem is inconsistency. Someone must tell him that play time is over, and that it's time to step in and become the new star of this club.

Last year,against Napoli I truley believed that Pato's gonna step up.But then injuries came again,I believe.I would like to start Pato vs Higuian debtate again.Look at the argentinian,he only suceeds when their is good supply for him,and I believe Pato is a very similar player,maybe with a bit more pace.Only way we see Pato develop is a season without any injuries as sad before.So the question is:We'ce been waiting several seasons for our star player to come through,and at 22,you'd expect his muscle issues to be reduced,so why not wait for him one more season?The big clubs are gonna spill on him money anyway.You may call me a Pato fan boy,but i'm a new generarion milan fan,and what Kaka,sheva... meant to you is similar to what I feel about Pato.

The length of time he was here means nothing to me. Suppose he came to Milan as a superhyped 14 year old. Would we want to toss him at 19 because he "hasn't reached his potential" etc etc?? No the FACT is that his age is 22.

Yes I'd have liked for him to be on the level of a 22 year old CR7/Messi but the FACT is that bad games or not there are few players in his age group and even few forwards overall with his ability....so why the fuss?

Geez..yeah..more or less what the man above ^^ said. Exactly how many 22 year old prodigies are available right now?

Basically the argument seems to be, "Oh..look..Pato is not as awesome as Messi or CR7..so let's sell him!" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Am I the only person who finds this weird? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Fine. How long do we wait for him to make real progress? Til he's 24, 26, 28? At what point does his selling value become greater than his potential skill?