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post Nov 21 2011, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 21 2011, 12:50 PM) *
It's very hard to define Pato's position because he hasn't ever had a long enough sustained run in the team without a lengthy injury interrupting it.

A few years back I saw him making a mazy dribble at Lecce before just missing the target - at that point he looked like he could be a Messi type. Then when he returned eventually from another injury he couldn't beat a man for love nor money, but was able to score important goals.

So it's hard to figure out exactly how and where he should play.

fwiw I think his most potent weapon is pace, and against Barca it was exploited to the full with a clinical finish at the end of it. Pace for a striker is a great weapon, but only if you get the supply, and I'm not sure we play the kind of game that exploits Pato's best qualities.

So, to answer the question I appear to be asking myself, I literally do not know what Pato's best position is. Suppose the best way to find out is for him to remain injury free and play for a long period of time.

I agree, but I can't see him having a long injury free spell anytime soon. I just hope the club doesn't grow tired of waiting for him before he can shake the injury problems off.

I'd hate to see him doing great things with another club.
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post Dec 11 2011, 02:41 PM
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With Carlos Tevez on his way in, and Manchester City & Paris Saint-Germain circling, AC Milan should sell Alexandre Pato

The January introduction of the Argentine could push out the 22-year-old, but given his injury issues it may not be a bad move for the Rossoneri to let him go

By Kris Voakes | Italian Football Editor

The rumours were rife in the summer of 2009. As Carlo Ancelotti set about making his mark on new club Chelsea, media outlets in both England and Italy were insistent that the former AC Milan coach would ask his new bosses to part with €35 million to sign the Rossoneri’s Alexandre Pato. At one stage it seemed inevitable that the Brazilian’s stint on the peninsula was over.

But more than two years later, Pato remains a Milan player, and is now a champion of Italy to boot. His 14 goals last term helped Massimiliano Allegri’s side claim their first league crown in seven years, yet in so many other ways the season had brought more evidence for those who believed the striker should have been allowed to leave when Chelsea came enquiring.

With perennial hamstring pulls, strains in multiple adductor muscles, ankle trouble and latterly issues with his thigh, the 22-year-old has racked up an injury history that many players in the indian summer of their careers have managed to avoid. While this may well be no fault of Pato’s, Milan would be foolish not to bear this in mind if a firm bid is made for the former Internacional man next summer.

And with the likely introduction of Carlos Tevez in January, it appears that Pato is set to undergo the most difficult period of his Milan career on the pitch too. Having been a first choice almost since the day he netted on his memorable debut in the 5-2 win over Napoli in 2008, the Manchester City man's arrival could well see the Brazilian pushed onto the bench.

In the last couple of months, there have been new reports of interest from Manchester City and Paris Saint-Germain, and while the English side were credited with an interest in a €65m transfer switch at the beginning of last season which never went anywhere, the latest links - suggesting that he could head for the Premier League in a quasi-swap move for Tevez - deserve a little more consideration.

Pato is undoubtedly a huge asset to the Rossoneri when his is fit and firing, and his record of 60 goals in 134 games for the club is not to be sniffed at. But his propensity to collapse in full flight is becoming a real issue. The thought of seeing the striker starting even 75 per cent of Milan fixtures remains nothing more than a distant dream. He even missed the recent trip to Genoa having made just a single start since his previous spell on the sidelines.

As he closes in on the four-year anniversary of his debut for the then-European and world champions, one must question whether he will ever reach a stage where he can run at full pace with great regularity without clutching his hamstring, his thigh, or any other leg muscle put under the pressure of his stop-start club career so far.

After each new injury blow comes another test for each muscle which has not been worked as it would be with regular football. With each spell out comes another question mark as to Pato’s long-term viability as a top-level striker of blistering pace. His speed is by far and away his outstanding quality, but he’s gradually losing his effectiveness in that department despite still being in the fledgling stages of his career. And he has already been missing from the starting XI in 82 of the 186 games the Rossoneri have played since his debut.

The €45m which Milan would allegedly ask for the striker - or the services of Tevez plus a hefty cash sum - may well come in more handy than a striker whose one great asset could be completely compromised by the time he reaches 25, and so far he hasn’t shown the technical nor tactical intelligence which would be necessary to adjust his game and make him a more all-round forward upon the loss of his pace.

Though Tevez is five-and-a-half years older than Pato, his ability to stay fit over longer periods must not be overlooked. Of course, any player could befall a serious one-off injury at any point, but the constant issues the likes of which the Brazilian is regularly struck by can become a real drain on a club. Add to that the power and flair the former West Ham and Manchester United striker adds to the game, and you have an excellent forward option for the next few years.

So while rumours of an exit for Pato are nothing new, don’t be too surprised to hear that this time Milan could be taking them seriously. Even his relationship with club director Barbara Berlusconi shouldn’t stop the right decision being made, and with each new injury to the Brazilian, it appears the best choice may be to sell the player once considered the club’s brightest young star.

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Any thoughts?!

Obviously it'd suck if he were to leave, but sometimes I can't help but wonder if his injury problems were reduced if he was under better medical staff. before his thigh gets completely wrecked... maybe it's not too late.

Obviously I want him to be healthy and do well at another club than remain here and continue like this. IF moving to another club means less injuries/better fitness.
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post Dec 11 2011, 03:57 PM
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If Tevez comes, I'd rather sell Robinho.
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post Dec 11 2011, 05:22 PM
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post Dec 11 2011, 05:35 PM
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No way!

If Tevez comes than it has to be Robinho. Even though I'd prefer if we kept all 5
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post Dec 12 2011, 02:57 AM
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Sell Robinho and swap pato for balotelli.

Both are overrated and useless, they need to f*ck off.

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post Dec 12 2011, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Dec 12 2011, 02:57 AM) *
Sell Robinho and swap pato for balotelli.

Both are overrated and useless, they need to f*ck off.

Seriously?
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Pato's only problem is inconsistency, mainly due to sluggish attitude and injury proneness. Robinho is bad at almost everything. Last year he had quite a decent run, but this season he's been plain horrible. I wouldn't mind selling him for Tevez.
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post Dec 13 2011, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 12 2011, 01:04 PM) *
Seriously?

Yeah Pato hasn't done f*ck all this season and last season it was clear he was on the decline.

Robinho doesn't really fit our style. He's decent but he misses way too many chances. His creativity is deadly, but then again Cassano and Ibra can do the same thing.


We need a quality striker. I hope Tevez comes. He's creative and can finish chances like Ibra.

Ibra and Tevez and we have a quality attack.

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post Dec 13 2011, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Dec 12 2011, 02:57 AM) *
Sell Robinho and swap pato for balotelli.

Both are overrated and useless, they need to f*ck off.

I think you're being ridiculous and over the top over a single game! Very mature there blue (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Dec 13 2011, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 13 2011, 03:23 PM) *
I think you're being ridiculous and over the top over a single game! Very mature there blue (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


He's not even mentioning the Bologna game. He's talking in general. And he does make a very good point. Pato has been regressing year by year. As much as I have faith in him, the kid really needs to wake up and realize he's not 17 anymore.
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post Dec 13 2011, 05:24 PM
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How long is left on Pato's contract? I really would look into selling him. We're having a decent season and he really hasn't made any impact on it at all. Sell him to Madrid for a silly amount of money, that we could probably spend on another stiker and #10.
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 13 2011, 05:24 PM) *
How long is left on Pato's contract? I really would look into selling him. We're having a decent season and he really hasn't made any impact on it at all. Sell him to Madrid for a silly amount of money, that we could probably spend on another stiker and #10.


I think we should wait until the end of the season, see how things evolve. If the guy keeps having frequent injuries and blackouts, then I'd strongly consider selling him, especially if the money is good.
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post Dec 13 2011, 06:10 PM
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Yeah. City and Madrid will pay top dollar for him I think. To them money is no real issue so he will always be worth the gamble for them.
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post Dec 13 2011, 07:12 PM
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Agreed. Lets see how he does after January. If Madrid knocks on the door with 50mil, I'd say goodbye with a smile, as long as it was spent accordingly.
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