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post Oct 3 2011, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 3 2011, 06:20 PM) *
Man...Allegri's fault is that he didn't say "Stop! Pirlo is a priority". He just let that happened. He simply removed Pirlo because he didn't know what to do with him. He's more comfortable with guys like Rino, Nocerino or Bommel. You can see it from his comments also - even when we were searching for our mr. X he used to mention Asamoah or Lass Diarra. And that was before Flamini's injury. The problem is, he didn't realize what he's loosing with Pirlo. It's that simple.

There's no proof. Ganso could come in January and everything you said in this post could be proven to be false.
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post Oct 3 2011, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 3 2011, 09:27 PM) *
There's no proof. Ganso could come in January and everything you said in this post could be proven to be false.

You think one Ganso can solve the problem? No proof? Well, we don't have proof's for anything, Allegri from 2010-11 may be kidnapped by aliens (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Yet, don't you recognize the pattern? All creative players except Seedorf present a clear problem to Allegri. Only difference was that with Pirlo and Dinho he couldn't play around, move them back and forth, search their position, etc. He's messing around with Aquilani, Boateng and Seedorf as well.
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post Oct 3 2011, 10:08 PM
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I don't know if Ganso would solve our problems. but it's a fact that he's a creative player and should he come at the request of Allegri, things you said about him Max being against creative players and all would be proven wrong.

I don't think Pirlo left because Max didn't want to use him. Pirlo was unavailable most of the last season so it's understandable to me that Max didn't oppose his departure - we won the title without him contributing much. I believe we really wanted to buy a creative midfielder (Mr. X) to replace Pirlo but somehow it didn't go through. yes we were caught with our pants down but again it's more Galliani's fault not Max's. either Mr. X or his alternative Mr. Y should still come in January IMO. I could be wrong. time will tell.

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And yet we all keep passing our opinions as facts...

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You'd love that wouldn't you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Oct 3 2011, 10:39 PM
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And yet we all keep passing our opinions as facts...

Do we? Can't recall the last time I mentioned anything what I've said being a fact.

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I don't know if Ganso would solve our problems. but it's a fact that he's a creative player and should he come at the request of Allegri, things you said about him Max being against creative players and all would be proven wrong.

I don't think you're getting my point. Naturally we'll get a creative player, even a blind coach would see that. And naturally he'll eventually bring someone in - in the end, it isn't his sole decision. The thing is, I don't think he know how to handle them.

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I don't think Pirlo left because Max didn't want to use him. Pirlo was unavailable most of the last season so it's understandable to me that Max didn't oppose his departure - we won the title without him contributing much. I believe we really wanted to buy a creative midfielder (Mr. X) to replace Pirlo but somehow it didn't go through.
I think Allegri didn't show any interest in convincing Pirlo to stay. Dammit, sometimes you gotta do exactly this! Berlu convinced Weah to stay once! Anyway...no more history...
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post Oct 3 2011, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 3 2011, 11:08 PM) *
I don't think Pirlo left because Max didn't want to use him. Pirlo was unavailable most of the last season so it's understandable to me that Max didn't oppose his departure - we won the title without him contributing much. I believe we really wanted to buy a creative midfielder (Mr. X) to replace Pirlo but somehow it didn't go through. yes we were caught with our pants down but again it's more Galliani's fault not Max's. either Mr. X or his alternative Mr. Y should still come in January IMO. I could be wrong. time will tell.


Pirlo had decided to leave since February (his words). The duty of Allegri and Galliani was to convince him to stay. Allegri by declaring Pirlo's importance as the kingpin of our midfield, Galliani by offering him a 3-year contract. Neither did what they had to do. At the time, I wasn't that depressed cause I thought we'd certainly sign someone worthy of replacing Pirlo (the world class signing Berlusconi bragged about when we won the scudetto), but right now I feel cheated and disgusted by our board. They let go of the only player from the old guard still capable of maintaing the quality of this team high and replaced him with an average midfielder, whilst at the same time keeping all the useless duds, such as Gattuso, Ambrosini etc. at high wages. Talk about upside-down logic.
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post Oct 5 2011, 01:54 AM
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post Oct 5 2011, 02:18 AM
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post Oct 5 2011, 05:20 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 3 2011, 10:13 AM) *
Amelia
Abate - Nesta - T. Silva - Taiwo
Boateng - Van Bommel - Aquilani
Seedorf
Pato - Ibrahimovic


I think Abbiati has filled the cup. Not only he's been quite disappointing in his saves, but now he's starting to make childish errors. I closed an eye after his howler against Udinese, but what he did last night was simply horrific. Even Dida in his worst moments couldn't match such an amateurish mistake. Give Amelia a chance and see how he fares.

And you said i had given up on Abbiati too early after Udinese (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ...
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Oct 5 2011, 06:20 AM) *
And you said i had given up on Abbiati too early after Udinese (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ...

Naah, he meant that by removing him from the first team after one big mistake would make him even more unconfident and insecure for the rest of the season. You simply don't change your keeper directly after his first mistake. But after two goals gifted to the opposition - it's pretty much obvious.

Because once Amelia is set as a starter, he has to stay in that position, no matter how many mistakes he makes. That was the thing with Kalac too. You simply cannot rotate goalkeepers.
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post Oct 5 2011, 10:23 AM
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Yeah goalkeeping rotation never really works. It can also have negative effects on the defenders. If the coach doesn't trust them and keeps switching them round, it'll make the defenders feel the same way.
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post Oct 5 2011, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 5 2011, 11:23 AM) *
Yeah goalkeeping rotation never really works. It can also have negative effects on the defenders. If the coach doesn't trust them and keeps switching them round, it'll make the defenders feel the same way.


Very true. But Abbiati has been getting on my nerves lately. Not only because of his horrible howlers, but also his attitude stinks big time. Anyone noticed how very often he tries to lose time when we're on the lead? Against Barcelona he was doing it on every single free kick. But not only that. He makes a save when most of the opposition is in our own half, and instead of relaunching the ball quickly for a counter, he takes his time nice and easy. He's the very reflection of Allegri's small-club mentality. I hate it.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 5 2011, 05:39 PM) *
Very true. But Abbiati has been getting on my nerves lately. Not only because of his horrible howlers, but also his attitude stinks big time. Anyone noticed how very often he tries to lose time when we're on the lead? Against Barcelona he was doing it on every single free kick. But not only that. He makes a save when most of the opposition is in our own half, and instead of relaunching the ball quickly for a counter, he takes his time nice and easy. He's the very reflection of Allegri's small-club mentality. I hate it.

We're doing this almost constantly - remember Madrid also. We're unable to take a normal corner-kick if we're ahead. So this one goes more on Allegri then on Abbiati, but yes, I've noticed the same thing.
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Andrea Pirlo recorded the most passes attempted (81) and completed (72) in the game vs Serbia last night.
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post Oct 12 2011, 08:29 PM
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Yesterday v Northen Ireland Andrea Pirlo completed 113 of his 129 total passes, creating three scoring chances.
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