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> Serie A - Week 3 - Napoli - Milan, Date: 18/09/11 Time: 20:45 CET

 
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post Sep 15 2011, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 15 2011, 03:57 PM) *
Sportmediaset mentioned it.

Okay, shame. Starting with Robinho, and have Cassano as sub, would have been more powerful than vice versa. Then assuming not only Robinho won't start but also others like Taiwo and Boateng, I would go for:
Cassano, Pato
Emanuelson
Aquilani, Van Bommel, Nocerino
Zambrotta, Thiago Silva, Nesta, Abate
Abbiati

Especially with no Robinho and Boateng starting, Emanuelson characteristics are needed and he has showed good things when playing, and is in my opinion a logical replacement for Boateng, in a way they are similar. Seedorf instead of Emanuelson would make our team too slow in my opinion. I think AM suits Emanuelson better than LCM. Probably having less flaws there and we will have more benefit of his attacking skills including dribbling and pace.

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post Sep 15 2011, 03:26 PM
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I would rather play Aquilani as AM and Seedorf as LCM. Urby is too mediocre.

Lavezzi might be out with ancle problems.
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post Sep 15 2011, 04:13 PM
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Pato - Cassano

Seedorf

Aquilani - van Bommel - Nocerino

Zambro - Thiago - Nesta - Abate

Abbiati


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post Sep 15 2011, 04:41 PM
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^ That's the line-up proposed by Mediaset as well. They also have Taiwo and Robinho on the bench.
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post Sep 15 2011, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 15 2011, 03:03 PM) *
Okay, shame. Starting with Robinho, and have Cassano as sub, would have been more powerful than vice versa. Then assuming not only Robinho won't start but also others like Taiwo and Boateng, I would go for:
Cassano, Pato
Emanuelson
Aquilani, Van Bommel, Nocerino
Zambrotta, Thiago Silva, Nesta, Abate
Abbiati

Especially with no Robinho and Boateng starting, Emanuelson characteristics are needed and he has showed good things when playing, and is in my opinion a logical replacement for Boateng, in a way they are similar. Seedorf instead of Emanuelson would make our team too slow in my opinion. I think AM suits Emanuelson better than LCM. Probably having less flaws there and we will have more benefit of his attacking skills including dribbling and pace.

What? Urby behind the strikers? Really?

So you don't want Cassano playing there but Urby yes? He's not good enough to play that position nor is he adapt to it. As Jack posted Aquilani behind the strikers and Seedorf in his usual position will be what's best

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Sep 15 2011, 03:26 PM) *
I would rather play Aquilani as AM and Seedorf as LCM. Urby is too mediocre.

Lavezzi might be out with ancle problems.

Agreed.

yeah he limped off yesterday, any talk of Cavani, he also looked to have problems when coming off

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Pato - Cassano

Seedorf

Aquilani - van Bommel - Nocerino

Zambro - Thiago - Nesta - Abate

Abbiati


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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 15 2011, 08:08 PM) *
What? Urby behind the strikers? Really?

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So you don't want Cassano playing there but Urby yes? t

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He's not good enough to play that position nor is he adapt to it.

I disagree (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) everytime I see Furby play for us I have the feeling he is a better fit for AM than LCM. Defensively he's not the strongest and he may lose possession too often for a LCM, and he can't do playmaking there. I believe we are not getting the best out of Furby at LCM, and will see more flaws of him than when playing at AM.

Furby should push forward as often as possible, which he can at AM while at LCM not as often, creating threat and chances with his pace, dribbling, technique, and I think his passing (a pass through the middle) is better than his crossing. And as AM he can go to left wing position way more often than as LCM. So that's another plus, since he's good at left wing. (Allegri is known for putting a winger at AM anyway (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) so it should work!)

When Milan is in possession and Furby goes forward he can act like another forward easily. And without position he simply is a midfielder helping the team defend and all, unlike Cassano. Cassano is a forward and forward only, and simply lack the energy and/or workrate to play as our AM unlike Robinho. It's best to use an actual midfielder for that.

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post Sep 15 2011, 07:45 PM
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I think you're making Urby into something he's clearly not, I've seen him in the AM position a couple of times this pre-season and he just doesn't know how to play that position.

He's not an LCM either, he's a LM, he's being deployed in a narrow midfield when he does better wide. He's not a forward either, so making him play so high up is a waste
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post Sep 15 2011, 08:02 PM
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At least we agree he's not a LCM. He should not play in central midfield. Left wing is his best position, but we don't have that in our formation. In our formation his best fit is at AM. Allegri likes to play with a wingerish AM so to me it makes sense to play Furby there now Prince is out.

I didn't mean to say Furby is a forward, but he comes to it much closer than players like Aquilani and Seedorf, while being a midfielder. Playing Seedorf at AM is a waste (way too slow), he should only play at LCM, but you seem to agree on that. Aquilani can do both I guess.

He has played as AM in pre-season, yes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It was nice to see Allegri using him at AM rather than LCM. Though I don't find Emanuelson good enough to be our starting AM, I want him to vs Napoli since we have not really good AM's in our squad. Especially with no Boateng, and since Robinho won't start too, I rather want Furby's pace and all than fielding both Seedorf and Aquilani. I'm afraid it will be too much of the same and too little of...
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post Sep 15 2011, 09:07 PM
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He plays with a "wingerish" AM as you say because we do not have an actual AM. His options are Robinho, Cassano, Boateng, Aquilani or Seedorf. Only Robinho is wingerish of those. All the others are central mids aside from Cassano who is a support striker
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For the game agasinst Napoli, I'd go with this one :

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - Silva - Zambrotta
Nocerino - Van Bommel - Aquilani
El Shaarawy
Cassano Pato
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post Sep 15 2011, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 15 2011, 10:07 PM) *
He plays with a "wingerish" AM as you say because we do not have an actual AM. His options are Robinho, Cassano, Boateng, Aquilani or Seedorf. Only Robinho is wingerish of those. All the others are central mids aside from Cassano who is a support striker

At Cagliari he made a winger his AM. Boateng acts a bit wingerish too.
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Sep 15 2011, 09:43 PM) *
For the game agasinst Napoli, I'd go with this one :

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - Silva - Zambrotta
Nocerino - Van Bommel - Aquilani
El Shaarawy
Cassano Pato

El Shaarawy is not ready for this kind of game

Seedorf will do just fine for this one

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 15 2011, 09:48 PM) *
At Cagliari he made a winger his AM. Boateng acts a bit wingerish too.

Wasn't Lazzarri his AM at Cagliari? He's not exactly a winger.

While Boateng is not a winger, he's a box-to-box, he only drifts wide bcause he doesn't know how to play the AM position either so he only finds space on the wings. The only usefulness we get out of Boateng in that position is his run into the box, aside from that, it's a complete waste to play him there when he'd be so much better then that in his actual position
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post Sep 15 2011, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 15 2011, 10:59 PM) *
Wasn't Lazzarri his AM at Cagliari? He's not exactly a winger

winger Cossu became the AM, while AM Lazzari became their LCM (tho also played games as AM)
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 15 2011, 10:01 PM) *
winger Cossu became the AM, while AM Lazzari became their LCM (tho also played games as AM)

Ok then, but the situations are completely different. We might not have a proper AM, but at Milan he has certain luxuries that he didn't have at Cagliari, namely not having to play Urby in the AM position when you have Aquilani, Seedorf and Robinho as options
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post Sep 15 2011, 10:17 PM
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If we could play Serghino as LB, then we can sure as hell play Emanuelson there. That's the only position I can see him fit in our line-up.
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