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Note I said:
i.e. I've seen MANY MANY games where the VAST majority of Pirlo's long balls go to no one in particular. The free kicks dropped off worse too.

I'm not saying that he wasn't excellent at them ONCE. Neither would I be so silly as to suggest that he is a bad passer now. But the term maestro implies a master at something. Maestro's get old but their ability doesn't suddenly disappear as post '07 Pirlo's free kick ability. For instance, strikers like Ronaldo and Inzaghi could weigh a ton or be a zillion years old but would still retain their exceptional finishing and striker instincts. They were true MASTERS of their trade. Zidane is still a pretty good dribbler and can still confuse any marker...just how I see it.

Pirlo was simply a technically gifted midfielder with above-average vision and was in good passing/free kick form for

I will agree to disagree about him being a "maestro" for my viewpoint outlined above. When I think of Maestros in midfield I think about Riquelme, ZZ, Ronaldinho, Kaká, Fabregas, Xavi, Iniesta Seedorf, Valderrama, Hagi etc. Granted not all are exactly the same type of player (regista I think it's called in Italian) but they all had the same basic duty to supply the attack with opportunities. Granted a pure CM has more defensive work, which let's face it, Pirlo was never good at.

It's no coincidence that with Gattuso out injured (Leo era), Pirlo looked utterly useless in Milan. It's no coinciednce tha Allegri has tossed such a ridiculously over specialized player from our team, preferring s player who can help on many fronts.

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straight from the HORSE'S mouth

This post has been edited by drucurl: Aug 31 2011, 01:29 PM

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Any reason for the largely sized text in red?

I doubt it's anything that surprising to be honest.

Just wanted to highlight the issue which I have been harping on for the last two years. Pirlo has no love for Milan. At his age we shouldn't have seen such a DRASTIC drop in form bus from 2008 onwards he was borderline useless except for a brilliant pass here and there.

His absolutely nonchalant attitude to my beloved Rossoneri is a source of aggravation for me as is the continuous overrating of his role in our success. I feel rather vindicated to hear this from him because he's been painted with nothing short of the most saintly colours by many and called such things as a "model professional" and been accused of "giving his all for our team"

A BRIEF analysis of Pirlo's game and his consistent refusal to TRY to help, especially in situations where he loses the ball or dished the irresponsible backpasses would further vindicate my opinion. So people can still insult, say "cool story bro" and accuse me of trolling but no one can dispute his own words or the reason he left us any longer

All I hear from you when you talk about Pirlo is bla bla bla dru. What's the point? Just drop it. You'll only cause trouble. Or is that your main goal? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Like I said earlier you can toss whatever you want at me...even ban me as at R&B for my unpopular opinion...but no one can deny that Pirlo isn't the Milan legend or one of those that can claim he gave his all. I havent' disrespected you or anyone but this guy NEVER deserved to be at Milan. A player with his talents and abilities should not have ever been allowed to give back so little to our illustrious club

i'm not surprised that you don't hear what I'm saying. Most Pirlo fans won't care anyway. I just feel a bit vindicated now that he himself confirmed it. If he truly loved us or was motivated he'd have taken the one year contract as Dorf did and FIGHT for his place. But Pirlo thinks himself above that just as he thinks he is above tracking back when he lost the ball or letting practically any marker just walk past.

I am also upset by the hypocrisy of some fans who claimed to have hated Ronaldinho for these same reasons but then gave Pirlo a free pass. Again it's just imho and as an admin it's your choice and authority to do with me as you see fit. The internet is, after all not as free as it seems (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

A big lol at you. Never given his all to Milan? You completely lost me there and I stopped reading at that point.

You'll only be sanctioned if you instigate any more unecassary fights as you've done in the past regarding Pirlo. We encourage different oppinions and discussions but not blatant flaming, which is what you're doing with this Pirlo thing.

Rather disingenuous to mis-quote me. I certainly didn't say he never gave his all for Milan in that post. But then again you are looking for the slightest of flaws to discredit me so it's understandable.

Certainly he must have at some point during 2002-2007 to play as well as he did. I am merely expressing disgust at his languid approach to the game which worsened as his physical attributes declined with age. I can't see how fight can be insitigated over a direct quote either. But people will always believe what they want no matter how visible the truth in front of them is

I'm not instigating anything. I stated my opinion and i referenced it with a direct quote. What happens next is your choice

You're disgusted due to his personal style of football? What excuse is that?

Also, we've had many disagreements in regards to Pirlo, mainly with chu, yet never was he ever told to watch what he's doing or saying, simply because he doesn't cross the line and keeps it to only the football side of it and doesn't presonally provoke anyone either.

If the mods ban everyone they disagree with then the forum would be deserted, and no one ever told you that you'd get banned for not thinking Pirlo was worth it anymore. I don't know what they do at the R&B forum but that is certainly not what is done here. So please don't try to turn this into a mod vs dru thing

Let's stop here. This Pirlo thing is getting pretty lame.

Dru, I partially agree with you. At least in the sense that it was time for him to leave. But respectfully I must say that you have gone over the top and Han isn't just blowing wind. At least not a lot of it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

If I come across overly strongly (I'm sure I have) I apologize. but I'm seriously annoyed at all the completely undeserved adulation he receives by us and others who probably don't watch him as often.

In short:

1. slower than a three legged turtle on glass
2. no free kicks scored in over two years (some maestro)
3. 2008 fiasco...worst performance ever in vs Arsenal....not even Brocchi or Helveg looked as awful
4. Admits that he lacked motivation to fight for our shirt and help usher in our new era
5. loses the ball regularly without tracking back
6. can't mark or tackle. If it weren't for his timely interceptions
7. Despite saying his first choice was to stay with us lacked the (insert quality) to stay and decided to become a juBe Ladri since FEBRUARY. i.e. he LIED (if it's wrong for Kaka and $heva and Leo's a traitor then he has to get his share of flack)

Il' Maestro was motm for Jube's opener....he must be so happy there (IMG:http://forum.acmilan-online.com/images/smilie/proud.gif)

Wonder if all the "Milanistas who wished him well since he's given his all to Milan and isn't the player he was" would mind if he plays like this vs us and JuBe kick our ***...They'd probably be all "forza Maestro-ing" if he pops in a free-kick after 3 years of utter and complete $h!t with us(IMG:http://forum.acmilan-online.com/images/smilie/proud.gif) (IMG:http://forum.acmilan-online.com/images/smilie/proud.gif) (IMG:http://forum.acmilan-online.com/images/smilie/proud.gif) (IMG:http://forum.acmilan-online.com/images/smilie/proud.gif)