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Dracoris
post Aug 13 2011, 03:17 PM
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So either Robinho is the new starter or....

http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=59014



Boateng has been pushed back to midfield.
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post Aug 13 2011, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE (Dracoris @ Aug 13 2011, 03:17 PM) *
So either Robinho is the new starter or....

http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=59014



Boateng has been pushed back to midfield.

This is leading to kaka imo
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post Aug 13 2011, 04:12 PM
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Currently watching the Liverpool game, Aquilani is not in the squad, not even on the bench. Last time I checked he wasn't injured. I think this speaks volumes
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post Aug 13 2011, 06:58 PM
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well they've made it clear for some time they don't want him, it's where he goes we don't know.
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Fillipo Simone
post Aug 13 2011, 07:17 PM
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So, here's my definitive pick on the debate that's going on for (p)ages.

I think R7 has a point when saying some of his opinions. If I understand him correctly, he does not want to regard Aquilani or Montolivo as a Pirlo replacement, just a handout addition. Indeed, Milan should replace Pirlo with someone equally talented or gifted. We tried Fabregas who has the potential, but failed. We shouldn't splash our funds on players like Aquilani or Montolivo (especially if both Liverpool and Fiorentina are gonna play hardball), rather try bring in someone new. Xavi or Iniesta will leave at some point, there are players like Götze or Ganso who could in terms of potential mean a significant upgrade.

R7 is however, for my taste, a bit too sentimental. Although I wouldn't be as hypercritical as han (usually is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ), but yes, Seedorf cannot be reliable. He's becoming a nice bonus, a high quality option like Pippo is.

On the other hand, the last few weeks made us a bit over-concerned about the state of our creative department. R7 again made a valid point when he said our attack can generate creativity as well. Look at Uruguay, both at the World Cup and the Copa America - the usually field a midfield consisted of Perez, A. Pereira and Arevalo. One could easily discard them as a team with a hard-working but uncreative midfield. But, Forlan and Suarez (apart from Pereira) do most of the creative work. Why couldn't we do it with Cassano and Robinho + Iba and El Sha? Sure, the comparison isn't the best one, but it's meant more as a demonstration.

Montolivo and Aquilani won't make such a big difference, but they will help. If we keep the money (with someone better/or with better potential in mind) not much will change. I know, this is a very big if, but I'm only providing an alternative.

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Tehy're not low quality, and which ever way you wish to look at it, we are desperate to get creative players into our terrible midfield. And no, you must be living in the 90s, players dream of EPL, La Liga (Barca/Real) not to come to Italy where things are going downhill, Italian clubs have to fight tooth and nail to get quality players, especially when you have other huge teams from other leagues able to splash ridiculous amounts of cash on these players and offer them conditions that Italian clubs simply cannot.

I think you're being a bit too pessimistic han. This is Milan we're talking about. I really think, no matter if this is the 10's and not the 90's, everyone or almost everyone wants to play for Milan. Maybe not for Palermo or Napoli, certainly not for Sampdoria or Udinese, but for Milan - most definitively. Fabregas rejected us only because of his ties with Barcelona. If we were near of signing Cesc, it's an evidence we still can attract almost anyone.

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Now both Pirlo and Merkel are gone, we simply have a huge lack of such kind player

Only you CHU are able to put both players in the same sentence and threat them as equal losses (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Aug 13 2011, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 13 2011, 11:17 PM) *
Only you CHU are able to put both players in the same sentence and threat them as equal losses

Don't know about CHU, but Han in my opinion always had links to the Maltese mafia. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Oh by the way, great post, (long post, mmmm) agree with most of it, though I am much more critical about Seedorf, for what it's worth. I feel like it was about time to hang up his boots, or at least do a stint at some smaller club.

Running around in the midfield takes a whole lot more energy than a defender or poacher - something our #10 has little of. Now if he's going to play select matches, and maybe just keep up with proceedings that's not going to do us a whole lot good. If he can't keep up, then we'll be in harms way. And then some.

An year extra will not make too much of a difference for him - he's practically won everything with us, anyway.
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post Aug 13 2011, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 13 2011, 02:17 PM) *
Why couldn't we do it with Cassano and Robinho + Iba and El Sha? Sure, the comparison isn't the best one, but it's meant more as a demonstration.

We can, and we have most of last year, relied on our attackers to produce most, if not all, of the offense.That being said, we want to be better in possession so that we may compete against Europe's better teams. we can't just have 8 players dumping it to 3 players all game via long ball; this isn't Ibra's Inter. We want competent 2 dimensional players that can run and support the attack as well as constantly press and place pressure on the other team. Right now we only about have 2 "mobile" mids in Emanuelson and Boatang. The others are fairly static and rarely actively pressure the opponents. I, personally don't disagree with our domestic results, just the mentality versus european competition as well as the disposition of players that can't effectively play a more "european friendly" football.
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post Aug 13 2011, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Aug 14 2011, 12:18 AM) *
We can, and we have most of last year, relied on our attackers to produce most, if not all, of the offense.That being said, we want to be better in possession so that we may compete against Europe's better teams. we can't just have 8 players dumping it to 3 players all game via long ball; this isn't Ibra's Inter. We want competent 2 dimensional players that can run and support the attack as well as constantly press and place pressure on the other team. Right now we only about have 2 "mobile" mids in Emanuelson and Boatang. The others are fairly static and rarely actively pressure the opponents. I, personally don't disagree with our domestic results, just the mentality versus european competition as well as the disposition of players that can't effectively play a more "european friendly" football.


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Also,everyone seems to have a view of Aquilani and Montolivo as average which I view wrong.They might not be Barca quality,but still to our team they will be significant.All of the names mentioned like Hamsik and etc... are not just not worth the gamble,and fuss.We saw Ganso in coppa america,I don't really think he's even worth the tag they've slapped on him.He will not take us to a new level...While,Hamsik's price is downright funny.Other players mentioned are impossible to get anyway.(Xavi...)To really succeed next season,we need a good consistent midfield with depth.In those situations,I don't know how someone could refuse Aquilani and Montolivo for 20million.It's beyond stupid.Look at Liverpool,they bought Henderson for 16million,downing for somewhat the same price tag too.All clubs are playing hard ball these days.


Also,I like this http://acmilan.theoffside.com/azzuri/tacti...creativity.html (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Aug 13 2011, 10:54 PM
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We are linked with Christian Eriksen through Genoa, maybe a similar deal like Boateng's.

http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=59006

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post Aug 13 2011, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Aug 14 2011, 02:54 AM) *
We are linked with Christian Eriksen through Genoa, maybe a similar deal like Boateng's.

Oh, it feels so great to have a farming club like Genoa. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) They take care of us like there is no tomorrow, I wonder what Galliani is feeding them folks. Christian Eriksen isn't half bad a player going buy what I heard. Though I've seen very little of the kid, let's see how this pans out.
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post Aug 13 2011, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Aug 13 2011, 06:09 PM) *
Oh, it feels so great to have a farming club like Genoa. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) They take care of us like there is no tomorrow, I wonder what Galliani is feeding them folks. Christian Eriksen isn't half bad a player going buy what I heard. Though I've seen very little of the kid, let's see how this pans out.

They get their $$ from us. i think you need not look further then what we payed for El Sharaawy and the fact that we co-owned Merkel, a kid who, if nothing else, Allegri had great admiration for.
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post Aug 14 2011, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Aug 14 2011, 03:39 AM) *
They get their $$ from us. i think you need not look further then what we payed for El Sharaawy and the fact that we co-owned Merkel, a kid who, if nothing else, Allegri had great admiration for.

Ditto. Cash is still king. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Win-win for both Milan and Genoa, really.
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post Aug 14 2011, 05:34 AM
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Yea, the price tag drops if Genoa knocks on your door. Although other clubs will catch on soon enough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Aug 14 2011, 10:48 AM
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No Cesc got you down?
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