Best guess he sees an injured player and just doesn't fancy him. And sees a chance to help out his old club and 'boyhood heroes' so accepts our bid for the guy.

I do remember how incredibly stubborn he was at Ibrox - he wouldn't change things when they weren't working, so I guess this is that mule headedness kicking in again. I remember very specifically he persisted with Ronald Wattereus in goal over the infinitely superior Stefan Klos despite all the errors he was making. Yeah, we did win the league in the end, but it was his ability to be obtuse it was in spite of, not because of.

Like I say though, his first season or two in all his new jobs have always been good. It's after that the rails come off. And then you'll be embarrassed by his hideous media performances, then will hate him when he abandons Villa for another cushy job.

The irony being many believe he was only signed in the first place with MON doing his old club a favour!


We had that here with MON too. Sorensen was our best keeper, but he kept playing Carson. Luke Young was the best right back, but he refused to play him because he didn't want to drop any of Cuellar/Dunne/Collins.

So long as he at least tries to play decent football and doesn't just sign big long ball players!

Seriously? Never heard that one. So some of your fans believe Villa only signed Cuellar because MON wanted to piss off Rangers and benefit Celtic. New one to me entirely.



Truth is he's never consistently had a good team of footballers - he was at Ibrox at a time when our finances were starting to get bad. The one time he did have money (using the Boumsong cash) he brought in decent players who ultimately won the league for us.

But he's lost Young, Downing and now possibly Cuellar. But with a few quid he might actually have you playing football. For a while. Till it all goes horrible.

I think it came about because we'd spent about £25m on defenders and then we go and spend another £8m on another. Him being a former Celtic boss and Cuellar being Rangers best player just got people thinking I suppose.

I can see the thinking behind it, but former Rangers bosses, Graeme Souness in particular, bought Ferguson for Blackburn for £8M, and Boumsong for Newcastle for the same amount. In both cases, our best player.

I doubt MON was trying to screw Rangers over - football managers don't have time to waste £10M or whatever on petty games like that.

Tevez fee agreed between Corinthians and City.

Oops-a-daisy!

Villa set to complete Given deal. Great move from them.

Good. Now hurry up and piss off. Though my respect went up for him a little when he single handedly knocked Argentina out of their home Copa.


Ouch! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I don't like Chelsea's new shirt much at all.


But as usual, every transfer involving City as the selling club drags on forever. Garry Cook is a ****.

EDIT: OFFICIAL: Given joins Villa on 5-year deal for £3.5m.

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This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Jul 18 2011, 07:32 PM

Gratz (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .

He's former Newcastle. It's always our boys who need to pull kurt's sorry pink butt outta the fire. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Newcastle fans say Given is amazing which worries me. They said the same about Beye and he's awful and they said Milner was awful and he was amazing. Whatever they say is generally wrong. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Must be up there with Srnicek!

Given is a superb goalkeeper.