I know you're being reasonable, but I find it intolerable when people put down a league title saying the league was weak that year.

I guess the same applies to the past 4 or 5 years when Inter won it - they won it because we and Juve were weak?

Toddlepop! They won it because they were the best team in Italy and deserved to win it. Last season we won it because WE were the best team in Italy.

Can't we give ourselves SOME credit, or are we always going to say the competition was poor?

both things can apply at the same time... Serie A was weak and we were the best team in a weak Serie A... saying it was a weak league is not taking anything away from Milan in my view... it's just what it is... Milan were eliminated by Tottenham in the CL after all we can't have been such a great team!

and of course it has been a weak Serie A the past five seasons though Inter did have a very good team last season under Mourinho.

Agreed, dst. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Saved me a bit of typing. Saying the league was not weak is over-appreciating our team, and likewise saying the team was nothing and we won because of little competition domestically is under-appreciating them. I believe what you believe, and that's cutting things smack in the middle.

Also agree about the inter run of titles, yeah, pretty much the weakest Juventus/Serie A I've seen since all time.

I agree with you. I'm not putting out title down or anything. Because I've wanted to see us getting that title back for years now. However, the competition does come into play, and you can't say that the other teams were competitive. We have to think about next season now, and every team will be strengthening considerably this summer, so we can't take it lightly by saying, "oh we're champions, we can stay as we are and we'd still be good enough", when imo that is very far from true. My point when saying that was that we cannot rest on our lorals because we won it this season because next season it will be tougher and we can't go out there with that midfield simply on the grounds that last season we won it with them playing.


Agreed

Having read all the replies I still feel an air of inferiority about your posts.

Was La Liga weak because Valenca were a distant 3rd and Real were miles off closing down Barca at the top? Was the competition weak there?

Was the Premiership weak because Utd won by a distance against Chelsea and Man City - who didn't seem to put in a consistent challenge for the title?

Or are we now saying that all 3 of the major leagues are weak and the winners' title is slightly invalidated because of this?

I can't get my head around the viewpoint here - we've won the league, over a 40 match or so campaign because we were the best team - the competition wasn't weaker than usual, (Just because Inter were poorer meant Napoli and others challenged instead) we just had a damn good campaign. And I bloody demand the lot of you appreciate that for what we've done rather than saying the league isn't up to much.

As for the CL, we still qualified for the last 16 with ease, and one bad night at the San Siro seems to have undermined the whole thing.

True Danny, but Man. Utd and Barcelona made it to the final, and Real to the semis. We couldn't get passed a weak Tottenham, bad night or not. And also look at the group stage. We collected only 8 points out 18, being the team qualified for the knock-out round with the least amount of points. Comparing leagues is useless. The Champions League is where the important clubs show their worth, and we were far from being worthy.

but we did have the hardest group in the champions league...and lets not forget that we played a very weak team vs ajax at the san siro...if we took that seriously then we would of only lost vs madrid

So,...transfers... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ..anyone?

So are you undermining our league title or...tbh I'm focusing less on the CL and more on the Scudetto which was our 100% priority last year.

Which might actually explain the CL exit in the last 16.

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I like the sound of Hansik and Ganso given the hype they're getting on here - but I don't know a huge amount about them.

Actually Hamsik is not really someone everyone here is drooling over but he's better then staying as we are and more realistic then someone like Fabregas

Yet I saw a price quoted of £90M. Not exactly cheap!

Delusional BS imo

It's apparently his asking price. It seems ridiculous.

But then doesn't Messi's value of £235M seem a wee bit OTT too?

Same old Hamsik, Ganso, Danilo, Schweinsteiger, Cassano for Montolivo rumors. Nothing original.

BTW, Sebastiano Rossi is our new scout. Might be a good idea to honor him with a thread.