Nice to see teams actually winning - or trying to go for it, for a change. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) We couldn't do jack shtick (sorry Captain, unintentional slip of tongue) against Ajax of all clubs, and some people here think we'll be able to take points form Real. For the record, I still stand by my earlier notion that we can win against Madrid. But there has to be a drive, a will to go for the win. We lack the killer instinct, and that to me is a surefire recipe for failure in today's football.

Any sane person will say that the target should be to qualify as group winners, wherever possible. I am not disappointed by the scoreline or draw against Ajax, just by the sheer lack of commitment and trying. Everyone from the coach to most of the team seemed content with a point. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) You can say this team is still directionless, it was the case in the league, now it is plainly evident in the CL too. If the goal is to just qualify for the next stage, then heaven help us. Because we surely aren't helping ourselves. Or making things any easier.

Quarterfinals should be the bare minimum with this squad. Anything less and color me unimpressed.

Not bothered about the CL this season. Screw it. I want to see the team performing better with better syncing up. Would be nice to have some uninterrupted time in training I guess.

I don't care about the CL this season for the slightest. Not one bit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's just the 8-10 million for the quarters appearance that I'm all about, we have missed out on CL revenue since winning it in 2007. If it ever came to us reaching the final, and winning the Scudetto, I'd choose the later without a blink - inter has won five straight league titles too many.

If Berlu can splash 40 million on two strikers, he'll accept the 10 million hit. BUT...if we get kicked out early in the CL..Max better land the scudetto..otherwise he's bye-bye!

Sure he can, but like you said Allegri won't be making things easier for himself with an early exit would be? A semi-final appearance and a hard fought title race, coming second with a couple of points difference should be enough for another year as the coach. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Anything less won't do it. We have to remember the squad he has as his disposal. B&G seems to remember, though.

But dash it all, it's just the early days at the moment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Far too early to make any concrete predictions, Roma's in relegation zone for crying out loud. Udinese is 20th with a single point from five matches. If anything, we need Pato back and soon, for the sake of both fronts - the CL and the league. The tall ninja alone can't cut and dice impossible goals all by himself for far too long. Last I heard is that the duck has almost recovered, good news I say!

I'm talking about the attitude we showed... yes, atm Ajax is a better team than Bremen. but Inter almost completely dominated Bremen and could have scored, like, 3 more goals. but we really looked like we couldn't (or didn't want to) play football out there. Ajax owned us as far as ball possession and probably scoring chances goes. big difference here.


Edit: OR.. what acid said in the first post of this page!!

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Sep 30 2010, 10:24 AM

True, ZD, you put it all in one word. Attitude. We didn't show any. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Maybe some members didn't feel that, and that's fine, but this was something completely missing. No attitude, no authority on the proceedings, it was just a show of survival. That has to change and soon.

Well, what do you expect? Inter are the defending champions? You all underestimate Benitez. Sure, he's not Mourinho or Capello, but he's a good coach. Naturally they have that attitude.

Milan on the other hand has to build their attitude. Attitude isn't just invented in a second or whenever someone wants. Two seasons ago we had plenty of false "we're the best club in the world" attitude, and what did that bring us? So don't be so fatalistic and don't comapre us to Inter.

Also, it does not all come to the point where someone lacks of attitude or not. Did we show attitude against Lecce or not? No, I don't think so,...it fooled all of us. Plus, we forgot that Milan wasn't the only team that made the 4-0 victory. Same goes for the Inter-Werder match.

Our outing against Ajax could have rendered the 3 points to our advantage, however Robinho lost that clear chance coupled with numerous attempts from our strike force that went bust.

In all honesty, we could have gotten the 3 points, but I am satisfied with a draw against a young and lively Ajax who were very motivated. Madrid almost got a draw in France only for an 80th minute lone goal. Comparing our outing to Madrid's, I'd say we had the tougher of fixtures.

You are so naive. Just because we could finish second doesn't mean we won't pass the next round. Inter finished second last season, yet they won the cup. We finished first in 2008 and faced Arsenal, a much tougher opponent than Sevilla, which finished first in Arsenal's group. We could easily go far in the competition, or we could easily fail. Coming second doesn't mean anything.



Robinho's chance came when the result was still 1-0. If he'd scored, things would have turned out differently and maybe Ibra wouldn't have scored at all. Don't blame this on Robinho.

It means a lot, look at last season, we ended up with Man U, sure sometimes you get lucky and still end up with a relatively easy team compared to most, but most times, you'll get a top team like we did. Inter are a completely different story, like Filippo said, let's not compare ourselves to them. At this point they are a few good steps ahead of us.

Naive is believing that coming in 2nd does not mean anything in terms of going far in the competition.

It does make a difference.

You can look at individual examples from the past, but they really have no bearing and this years competition. Fact is, teams that finish 1st, more often than not, get a fvourable draw in the 2nd round. Sure, you may get lucky and happen to get a weak to that just so happened to win their group, but it's all about the percentages. The percentages are going to be more in your favour for an 'easy' game if you win the group.

Alright, whatever... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

It's not the end of the world, but the odds of playing the likes of Barca, Man U, Chalsea, etc increase a lot. You'd have to be really lucky to come in 2nd and avoid all of these teams

Late post to this thread but Rangers have 4 points from 6. Much better start to the CL than last season. Doing a lot better - a good draw away at Man Utd then a solid win over Bursaspor.

Tough games to come but much more ground for optimism now.