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post Jul 14 2010, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 13 2010, 03:23 PM) *
Why would Krasic be a replacement for Ronaldinho? They even play on different positions.


Umm, well they're both wing attackers. It's not like Krasic is a Center Back that we'd be asking to replace Dinho. Maybe not the exact same positions, since dinho plays as a left winger and krasic a right winger. But after all, they are wing-attackers. Dinho pops up on the right occasionally, just as Krasic pops up on the left occasionally, when the run of play necessitates.

A simple switch, putting Pato on the left (allowing him to cut in onto his right, effectively making him a far more dangerous attacker - similar to how Robben and Messi are played) and playing Krasic on the right would effectively replace Dinho's presence in attack.

See? Simple.

Why are we so worried about REPLACING DINHO all of a sudden. When Kaka left, we effectively replaced him with a player (in Dinho - LWF) who is not exactly like Kaka, but with a formation switch (moving Pato from SS to RW) made it work. The same could happen if Dinho left. Hence, Krasic would be a viable replacement, in theory. Whether that translates to similar levels of quality is a question mark that hinges on Krasic adapting to Serie A (something that Dinho took a good season to do).

Oh yea btw, nobody is underrating Pastore. He's a quality player and extremely young. Maybe not of Dinho's stature yet, but certainly will be. When people say replace Dinho with Pastore, it's also considering the age factor, and the tactical realignment (4-3-3 back to the time-tested 4-3-1-2). After all, Dinho's got 1 maybe 2 more years of top level contribution. Pastore's got about 8. If we were to make a rational decision about our future, and had an option of getting Pastore instead of Dinho - the decision would be Pastore. If you don't rate him, you probably haven't watched him.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 13 2010, 03:23 PM) *
Anyway - selling almost everyone makes more sense then Ronaldinho. If we sell Gattuso we have Ambrosini and Flamini and Strasser and we can buy a new one, there are plenty of options. If we sell Huntelaar, same story. If we sell Ronaldinho we have no other option then buy a player who will not be on his level.


True. Other sales should be prioritized. If Dinho goes while the dead weight stays...i won't stop being a fan of AC Milan, but I will exercise my right as a fan to vehemently protest a management that no longer has the foresight needed to run a successful club.
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post Jul 14 2010, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE (vnata001 @ Jul 13 2010, 04:52 PM) *
F**k it. Let's sign Diego Forlan.

As if...

Think again cuz he ain't gonna be on the cheap!
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post Jul 14 2010, 01:31 AM
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Krasić for Dinho would be the ideal move. First, because we'd be switching Pato to the left where he's much more dangerous and deadly than on the right. Second, Krasić doesn't cost more than 15m, thus considering we'd sell Dinho for around the same price, we wouldn't be at a loss. Third, Krasić is someone who runs a lot and tracks back a lot, unlike fatty.

Pato - Borriello - Krasić
Pirlo
Flamini - Ambrosini
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post Jul 14 2010, 01:58 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 14 2010, 01:31 AM) *
Krasić for Dinho would be the ideal move. First, because we'd be switching Pato to the left where he's much more dangerous and deadly than on the right. Second, Krasić doesn't cost more than 15m, thus considering we'd sell Dinho for around the same price, we wouldn't be at a loss. Third, Krasić is someone who runs a lot and tracks back a lot, unlike fatty.

Pato - Borriello - Krasić
Pirlo
Flamini - Ambrosini


Isn't Krasic already set for Juventus? It isn't official yet, but yesterday, one of their board members confirmed Krasic and Dzeko could be on their way to Turin. Which is funny, because they both support Milan and were so close to San Siro. Anyways, I don't think switching Pato to the left is in any way better than bringing him back to the support striker position. With that in mind, my suggestion for Ronaldinho /or Seedorf for that matter/ replacement has always been Stevan Jovetić. He can play behind Borriello and Pato, he could play as a left midfielder, he could play a Seedorf-like role any time, he could be a striker as well. The Serie A experience matters as well. I find it strange that there are almost no rumors about him this summer. I guess he is either completely unsellable /which is sad since Fio will only get weaker now that Prandelli is gone/, or for some weird reason, nobody is impressed with him because of Fio's disastrous season in Serie A. Berlu should forget the "big star" crap and provide money for one talented young midfielder /Jovetic/ and a right back /De Silvestri, Van Der Wiel/. It will be more than enough if we pay more attetion to our primavera players. Andrea De Vito could be Antonini's alternative, Strasser for Rino and Romagnoli/Albertazzi for Kaladze. Verdi, Zigoni, Addiah, Oduamadi, Legati and our new purchase, Fossati, will go somewhere on loan, but some of them will definetely return and be part of the first team. Paloschi and Astori will return new summer as well.

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post Jul 14 2010, 02:39 AM
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I would support the Jovetic transfer...I think.
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post Jul 14 2010, 02:44 AM
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I doubt Juventus could afford both Krasić and Dzeko. And the latest reports have been pushing their attention towards the latter.

As for Jovetic, I'd gladly welcome him anytime. It's just that he's never been linked with anyone, I haven't really thought about it. Another name I'm surprised which doesn't float around is Vucinic. I think he's a superb player and would do well anywhere.
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post Jul 14 2010, 02:48 AM
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I like Vucinic too.
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post Jul 14 2010, 03:40 AM
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X-Off, what's the ownership status of AS Roma? I've seen (but not read) articles in the past several days talking about meetings with Unicredit and ownership and stuff. Are Roma in a situation where they might need to sell players?
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post Jul 14 2010, 03:48 AM
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I don't understand Roma. All they need to do is auction off a date with their Prezzy and all the financial troubles are solved.



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Seems Gattuso will probably leave. Wolfsburg is an interested party.
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post Jul 14 2010, 08:12 AM
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what kind of player is Fossati like?
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post Jul 14 2010, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE (Dracoris @ Jul 14 2010, 08:18 AM) *
I don't understand Roma. All they need to do is auction off a date with their Prezzy and all the financial troubles are solved.


She isn't that pretty. She's a very strong woman...but she's old and married. I could never think of her romantically. Maybe as a gal buddy. The kind of girl who can get you out of trouble, stands up for you no matter what, completes your notes in class...that kind.
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post Jul 14 2010, 09:14 AM
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would u like to see podolski in huntelaar out?
idk...i rather have both (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 14 2010, 09:31 AM
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^^

You're not making any sense mate. We're talking of Rosella Sensi.
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post Jul 14 2010, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 14 2010, 05:01 AM) *
Krasić for Dinho would be the ideal move. First, because we'd be switching Pato to the left where he's much more dangerous and deadly than on the right. Second, Krasić doesn't cost more than 15m, thus considering we'd sell Dinho for around the same price, we wouldn't be at a loss. Third, Krasić is someone who runs a lot and tracks back a lot, unlike fatty.


I don't get your obsession with Krasic. because he plays in the Russian league and didn't impress (me at least) in the World Cup. he looks like a good player to have but not someone I'd get rid of Dinho for.
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post Jul 14 2010, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE (TheOgre @ Jul 14 2010, 08:12 AM) *
what kind of player is Fossati like?


Midfielder. There is still no "Il Nuovlo Pirlo" stuff, but he comes from Inter and will play for the primavera as far as I know.
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