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post Jul 7 2010, 07:23 AM
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ambrosini is 33, 34 this season. Flamini is 26. Its time to change the who starts and who sits on the bench role. What are we gonna wait until flamini is 30 to start him ??
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post Jul 7 2010, 07:29 AM
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also on Honda, we should def sign him. He's quality and only 23. Def will put seedorf on the bench.
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post Jul 7 2010, 09:43 AM
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Imo Flamini needs to be a starter next season. And I'm not even saying he should replace Ambro, imo Pirlo should be moved further forward, he is being wasted in front of the defence. Ambro and Flamini in front of the defence would be ideal for this, they will free Pirlo to do what he does best, instead of having Pirlo in front of the defence doing all the defensive work while Ambro and another mid (under Carlo it was Ambro and Rino) playing as "Defensive Wingers" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I agree with X-Off, last season both Ambro and Flamini were mis-used. Flamini should have played more at the start of the season instead of burning Ambro at both ends for so long. At the end of the season Flamini started to prove what he could really do. I remember the games he played against Roma were he was immense. He pracically won the midfield single handedly, and the game he played against Fiornetina when Ambro got injured and Flamini replaced him, we were losing the midfield at that point and when Flamini came on we started to control the game. At this point Ambro was playing like cr@p. He just couldn't keep up anymore.

If Allegri doesn't play with both of them in the same line up then he needs to figure out a smart way to rotate them. Both have different qualities and we need to utilies them to the maximum. Allegri needs to identify which game suites which player etc. Flamini would be ideal against the smaller teams as he can push forward better then Ambro but is still solid when we need to defend.

Regarding the card debate, we've had it millions of times. All of our DMs are card magnets. Ambro was sent off more then Flamini last season, while Flamini got more yellows. What I don't lik about Ambro is that he mouths off when he already knows he's on a yellow, I've seen him get sent off this way at least 3 times. While Flamini makes the rash tackles when there is no need to
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post Jul 7 2010, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jul 7 2010, 12:30 AM) *
YES, we can trust Ambrosini. He was immense against top teams like Real Madrid. Man, he will step up a lot in those matches. And he won't screw up, good mentality and his tackling et cetera are good against those teams. While Flamini is not as reliable and might make a wrong tackle.

From our midfielders I trust Ambrosini by far the most, surely in the big games.

edit: Ambrosini can handle the pressure so well, while I'm not so sure about Flamini


I believe a lot of us here wants Dzeko more than Ibrahimovic (me included). While Ibra is the one who has proven himself more then Dzeko.

We need a player who is still very much motivated and always is running his longs out just to prove his expectations. I agree with you that Ambrosini didn't have had a bad season at all but we need refreshment. I also dont say that it HAS to be Flamini. Ramires would be fine as wel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 7 2010, 11:34 AM
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On other terms, does anyone understand the (rumoured) agreement that Milan and Inter reached about Mancini? Cause I dont (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=29235

Would be AWFULL to see him for another season here
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post Jul 7 2010, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE (ForzaMaldini @ Jul 7 2010, 11:34 AM) *
On other terms, does anyone understand the (rumoured) agreement that Milan and Inter reached about Mancini? Cause I dont (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=29235

Would be AWFULL to see him for another season here


This won't happen. Berlusconi will not let that happen (based on what he said when we transfered Mancini in winter).
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post Jul 7 2010, 11:42 AM
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Ambrosini is Milan's captain. He should be a starter. The team needs it captain - this is the logic I follow.

If he turns out bad (which I doubt) we can bench him. So a big IF.

Refreshments? Hell yeah - Oddo, Gattuso, Dinho - engouh positions to find a refreshment.
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post Jul 7 2010, 12:24 PM
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Tuttomercato reports:

Albertazzi and Legati will be loaned - link
In this article Milans defenders are mentioned. It's not a relevation are defensive line is (too) old. Our average is 30,7 which comes up lower then usually (last few seasons) but still makes me worry.

Also, Milan again linked with Empoli's topscorer Eder - link
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post Jul 7 2010, 12:46 PM
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Who Wouldn't Want Inter Striker Mario Balotelli In Their Team? - Mauro Tassotti - link

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If Mancini is close to come again in Milan for a loan. Inter will pay 70 % of his wages (2.5 mil euro), Milan will pay 30 % (1.4 mil euro ). - link

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post Jul 7 2010, 01:28 PM
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You mean someone as useless as Mancini has a wage of 4m euro? Oh dear...
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post Jul 7 2010, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 7 2010, 01:28 PM) *
You mean someone as useless as Mancini has a wage of 4m euro? Oh dear...


Kaladze's wage is 4m/year too. Or 82.000 Euro/ week.

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post Jul 7 2010, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 7 2010, 07:23 AM) *
ambrosini is 33, 34 this season. Flamini is 26. Its time to change the who starts and who sits on the bench role. What are we gonna wait until flamini is 30 to start him ??


I agree, better to put someone that can play 90 minutes and give his best.
Flamini works better then Amborsini.. I would defently bench Seedrof for Honda
cause he has skills that Seedrof has and he can replace the freekicks or corners
How many times has we been linked with Eder, it been going on and off allt he time..
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post Jul 7 2010, 01:50 PM
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Gennaro Gattuso will not follow Fabio Cannavaro to Dubai, according to his agent. - link
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post Jul 7 2010, 01:59 PM
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how if Kaladze and Mancini's wages are the same, Why can't Milan get rid of him?
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post Jul 7 2010, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE (samira @ Jul 7 2010, 01:59 PM) *
how if Kaladze and Mancini's wages are the same, Why can't Milan get rid of him?


Kaladze refused every single offer that other clubs made for him. He doesn't mind if he doesn't play he just want's to earn 4 mil/ year until 2011. That's on his contract.
If we get Mancini we will pay only 30 % of his wage so maybe if he starts to work harder he will deserve our 1.4 mil.
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