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post Jun 13 2010, 01:05 AM
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if pato is gonna be worth passing 50-60 million he better become a world beater and start winning games single handedly and scoring 20+ to justify why hes the next best thing

Milan need trophies and pato at the moment looks like our knight in shining armour high hopes for next season im still bitter he didnt get to go WC would have been so beneficial but oh well least he ll be fresh for next season
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post Jun 13 2010, 01:18 AM
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If Pato has yet another 'good, but not great' season next year I think we should seriously start considering big offers.
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post Jun 13 2010, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 13 2010, 02:18 AM) *
If Pato has yet another 'good, but not great' season next year I think we should seriously start considering big offers.


I second that.
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post Jun 13 2010, 03:11 AM
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He's 21 this september LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! A footballer doesn't reach his prime until 24 years old at least! What do you mean sell him?
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post Jun 13 2010, 03:29 AM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 13 2010, 04:11 AM) *
A footballer doesn't reach his prime until 24 years old at least!


Is that some ironclad rule of football? Messi has already reached his prime, and he's only 22.
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post Jun 13 2010, 03:35 AM
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The age is irrelevant to me, though that will help us sell him for more. It's the injuries that bother me. 20 and already picking up injuries like this?
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post Jun 13 2010, 03:44 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 12 2010, 08:29 PM) *
Is that some ironclad rule of football? Messi has already reached his prime, and he's only 22.


No he hasn't reached his prime. They say there is still more room for messi to grow.


also be realistic. We bought him for 22m and he was probably the best 18 year old in the world. If want to buy someone like Ganso who isn't as good as pato, we'll have to spend at least 25 to 30m.


We aren't in the position to be able to sell pato and still be okay from it. Our current mgmt aren't smart enough to invest money properly and when they do get it right once in a while they tend to f*ck it up in a way. Gourcuff/paloschi are examples.

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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 12 2010, 08:35 PM) *
The age is irrelevant to me, though that will help us sell him for more. It's the injuries that bother me. 20 and already picking up injuries like this?



Oh comon kurt, injuries are injuries. Players get them all the time.

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post Jun 13 2010, 03:54 AM
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We'll see next season. Like Kurt said, if he doesn't outperform his recent seasons and keeps on getting injured, then we should consider selling him. But I have faith in the kid, he won't let us down.
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post Jun 13 2010, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 12 2010, 11:00 PM) *
I think Pato might surpass Messi in two years time, if he puts a little more effort in his performances.

That's why you want to sell him right?

I still don't get why we're talking as if we are the Milan of a couple of years ago, a Milan who were more then happy to leave Rui Costa, Stam and Tomasson on the bench while still sweaping away with at least one trophy come the end of the season.

This is a time were we can't let any of our top players go because if they're sold the money won't go into eplacing them with better players and in our current squad there just isn't anyone at their level. There is no Kaka benching Rui, Sheva Pippo tearing it up so that Crespo and Tomasson are left on the bench, Maldini, Nesta and Cafu in defence that don't allow a player like Stam a look in.

We lose Nesta, Thiago, Pirlo, Dinho or Pato and we're mid-table quality at best. So I don't get where this arrogance is coming from, it's not like we're suddenly Real Madrid. Throwing away players that do the job more then well but still throwing them away just because they're not flashy enough
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post Jun 13 2010, 01:41 PM
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Pato has incredible potential, but somehow he struggles to express it. He had 2-3 good seasons since he's joined us, but nowhere near as good as what we expect from him. He has a very reluctant attitude on the field, which makes me wonder if he will ever explode in the big scene and take this team by the hand like Sheva and Kakà did at their time. It's true, he's only 20, but Messi at that age was already doing miracles. And Pato is no inferior to him in terms of potential and quality. This is my point.

Still, I already said I have faith in the kid and that he won't let us down, if you read my posts more carefully.
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post Jun 13 2010, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 13 2010, 01:41 PM) *
Pato has incredible potential, but somehow he struggles to express it. He had 2-3 good seasons since he's joined us, but nowhere near as good as what we expect from him. He has a very reluctant attitude on the field, which makes me wonder if he will ever explode in the big scene and take this team by the hand like Sheva and Kakà did at their time. It's true, he's only 20, but Messi at that age was already doing miracles. And Pato is no inferior to him in terms of potential and quality. This is my point.

Still, I already said I have faith in the kid and that he won't let us down, if you read my posts more carefully.

I agree with you on that

And even if you said that you had faith in him, in the same sentence you said we should sell him if he doesn't reach what is expected of him in 2 years time.

Maybe this is the best of what we'll see from Pato, he's still one hell of a player, and with our management's mentality selling him would mean we get great money but it's certainly not invested in the transfer market. Just like the big money we got for Sheva and Kaka.

Selling Pato at any point in time would be a massive step back for us, as we're not going to get anyone better, not with the ammount of money it would take to buy a young player that is on Pato's level
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post Jun 13 2010, 02:25 PM
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Thing is, when we sold Sheva, we had Kakà to back him up as our star player. And when we sold Kakà, we had Pato for that matter. So we were not left at the mercy of god. But if we sell Pato though, we won't have anyone important to rely on. So the management will think twice before making a decision. A team always needs a star player to lead them through success. At the moment, Pato is that player for us.

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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 13 2010, 02:25 PM) *
Thing is, when we sold Sheva, we had Kakà to back him up as our star player. And when we sold Kakà, we had Pato for that matter. So we were not left at the mercy of god. But if we sell Pato though, we won't have anyone important to rely on. So the management will think twice before making a decision. A team always needs a star player to lead them through success. At the moment, Pato is that player for us.

I don't really have faith in our current management to notice that little detail. They'll probably buy someone but not at the same level. It wouldn't make sense to sell Pato and spend probably just as much to buy a top class star player, when we all know that what they want is the money.
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post Jun 13 2010, 05:18 PM
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Messi plays in a completely different team and league... apparently no one can see that.

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Is it also some ironclad rule of football that any player who doesn't reach his prime before he's barely into his twenties should be sold?!

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 13 2010, 06:05 AM) *
It's the injuries that bother me. 20 and already picking up injuries like this?


If memory serves, Messi used to get injured a lot in his first seasons with Barca (it was a similar muscular injury). good thing Barca didn't think like you about this.

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