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post Jun 1 2010, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ May 29 2010, 11:25 AM) *
Milan, addio Dzeko: firma con il City



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Milan, farewell Dzeko: signs with the City




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Damir do you have any information about this ?


It's not true, Wolfsburg didn't recive any offer for Dzeko and Manchester City story is false!!!
Also the news i get from Edin manager is that clubs are trying to lower Edin price tag, around 30 Mil € would be fair, at the moment first in the line is Bayern Muchen ( Gomes + 10 MIL € they offer ) but all offers are unofficial. We are stil after him and nothing is over, apparently we are waiting for Lippi to make a move!!

Here is the true information : http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...sl=de&tl=en

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post Jun 1 2010, 08:24 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) c'mon, sign Dzeko!

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post Jun 1 2010, 08:38 AM
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Some very good arguments on the past few pages regarding dinho. Valid points on both sides and it really is a debatable issue as we don't really know if he will be able to continue playing the way he does given the fact that he is 30 years old now.


But I gotta agree with what Han had said earlier. Lets not be naive regarding the club's spending policy. If we sell dinho, we'll only spend what our original transfer budget was. If Galliani is given 30m to spend, he will only spend that much. It doesn't matter who walks out the door. The extra money will be put into our January transfer window or saved for the following year to pay off debts etc.


Now we all know how silvio is and he may go ahead and purchase a player with his own money just because he feels like it. He won't give Galliani 20m to reinforce the squad but he might spend 40m on a player like Ibra just because he wants to see him play in Milan. I know its stupid, but thats the reality.

So we have to look at our situation realistic.


Selling dinho right now would provide us a huge wage reduction (16m) and would get us a decent sum of money, 15-20m. But given his performance last season, i'm personally hesitant on the issue. He does cost quite a bit but his contribution to the team is huge in comparison to some other players who earn quite a lot.


Lets put into the light some other heavy earners:

Inzaghi=8m Was this extention really necessary? Sometimes I wonder what goes through Galliani's head.


Netsa=10m Was a titan for us in the back and when he was injured we suffered quite a bit. But he's 34. If we make him a vital part of our defensive plans, were taking some huge risks, given his injury history.


Pirlo=10m No one will deny that Milan ticks because of Pirlo. But this is similar to the arguements presented earlier about Kaka and Ronaldinho. Milan relies too much on individual players to get results instead of focusing on the overall team.


Flamini= 10m For the amount of money we pay this guy, he sits on the bench far too much. Yes I know we signed him on a free transfer and he is only 25, but at this point he is looking more like an expensive liability than a necessity. Especially this season, considering Ambro proved to be a much better player than flamini.

Seedorf= 8m 34 years old and a very solid midfielder. Seedorf is a true workhorse and at 34 seems to be 28. However, should we really be paying this much for a player who will most likely spend 60% of the season on the bench, especially if a player like Lazzari joins the club?


Zambrotta= 8m A solid fullback when on form, but at the price were paying Antonini seems like a much better deal who earns just 3m.



When looking at some of these players, I find it hard to critique Ronaldinho personally. Last season Dinho's contribution would equal all the players listed above combined. I personally find it unfair especially given the reason we reached 3rd was because of injuries and our poor strikers.


However, Like Han said earlier, Dinho is not a necessity for discussion at this time as we have alot more pressing concerns to attend to.

We need midfielders, a 20+ goal scoring foreward, a decent gk, someone who can replace nesta.

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post Jun 1 2010, 08:53 AM
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You're talking USD right. Coz otherwise those figures are wild!!

Besides that...there's an interview which Zee gave after the Chicago match. I read it on tribal. He says he's a person who likes to finish contracts and that he's got one more year left in his. (2011 July his contract ends). He also has an interest in MLS.

So..I guess this is Zee's last season. With Pippo, I doubt the contract extension was for an equivalent amount. And to just cut him off would have been to act like Madrid. Last season, he was never used much even when he was fit. He looked much better than KJH on the ball, and I think we can't cite poor performance in his case.

Nesta is Nesta. As long as he's there, all the other defenders can only get better right?

Pirlo? I already said we should sell him. I love him, but if you have a deep lying playmaker your tactics are pretty much decided then and there. You automatically require one DM to cover, and either two defensive wingers or offensive fullbacks etc.
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post Jun 1 2010, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 1 2010, 01:53 AM) *
You're talking USD right. Coz otherwise those figures are wild!!

Besides that...there's an interview which Zee gave after the Chicago match. I read it on tribal. He says he's a person who likes to finish contracts and that he's got one more year left in his. (2011 July his contract ends). He also has an interest in MLS.

So..I guess this is Zee's last season. With Pippo, I doubt the contract extension was for an equivalent amount. And to just cut him off would have been to act like Madrid. Last season, he was never used much even when he was fit. He looked much better than KJH on the ball, and I think we can't cite poor performance in his case.

Nesta is Nesta. As long as he's there, all the other defenders can only get better right?

Pirlo? I already said we should sell him. I love him, but if you have a deep lying playmaker your tactics are pretty much decided then and there. You automatically require one DM to cover, and either two defensive wingers or offensive fullbacks etc.


Nope afraid not jack. Those figures are what we pay and then they get taxed and the players receive their wage. We pay 16m Euros for Ronaldinho and he receives 8m after taxes.


I understand seedorf staying on board but I was not personally impressed with Pippo last season; he missed far too many chances imo. I just hope he got a wage reduction but I just don't see it. If he took one, Galliani would have creamed himself on goal.com

Nesta is WC no denying it, i'm just worried that if he gets a serious injury our season is pretty much over (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

No arguments over pirlo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I love him too but he like Kaka and Ronaldinho makes our team so dependent on him that we end up suffering.

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post Jun 1 2010, 09:10 AM
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Nesta is the best defender in the world; when fit. Sadly, that's no longer true for a fair part of every season =/...
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post Jun 1 2010, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 31 2010, 11:35 PM) *
Agreed. I'm tired of arguing over Dinho. Think as you wish, I don't like him and I stand for whatever I've said on his behalf.


FWIW I agree with you.
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post Jun 1 2010, 09:47 AM
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Some news for you guys:


There reports emerging that Dida may be given a new 1 year extention at 1m year. Storari may be sold as Sampdoria and Genoa are interested.

Juventus have offered Zebina for Oddo but we have declined and produced a counter offer. Oddo for Trezeguet. Its not reported whether there would be cash included in this deal.


Rui costa (IMG:style_emoticons/default/goodheart.gif) has said that we have first dibs for benfica's 3 super talents, David Luiz, Cardoza, and Di Maria above all other clubs. Many clubs are linked with these three brilliant players.

Reports in spain, mainly AS, have said that we are very keen on Diego Alves. His release clause is 15m but it seems Almeria will negotiate around 10m. If he is to come in, its reported that Abbiati will be most likely be sold to another club like Genoa etc.


We are linked with Cannavaro and reports indicate that there has been contact.


Source: Milannews.it

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post Jun 1 2010, 09:51 AM
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Like i told u Machester City is not a option for Dzeko as they don't play CL :

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...dbalp-37345.htm
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post Jun 1 2010, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE (Dzeko @ Jun 1 2010, 02:51 AM) *
Like i told u Machester City is not a option for Dzeko as they don't play CL :

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...dbalp-37345.htm



In your opinion do you think he'll be coming to Milan this summer?

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post Jun 1 2010, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 1 2010, 10:54 AM) *
In your opinion do you think he'll be coming to Milan this summer?


At this point of time it's hard to tell anything about new transfer ( my personall opinion is that he won't go no where one more season ), we should snipe him last year when we could get him for 25 Mil € when Leonardo wanted him ( i hate Berlusconi and Galliani Leo made the a fortune with Kaka, Pato etc etc they should listen to him =... Personally Dzeko is my friend ( and one of the best strikers in the world )but 40 Mil € for him is crazy because we are buying him from Wolfsburg that is mid table German club. I love Milan and i think that at the moment we don't need Dzeko our main target should be defence - flanks - mid - for 40 Mil € we can buy three or four great players. We will see what is going to happend.

U see he want us : http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...sl=de&tl=en

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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 1 2010, 03:17 PM) *
Rui costa (IMG:style_emoticons/default/goodheart.gif) has said that we have first dibs for benfica's 3 super talents, David Luiz, Cardoza, and Di Maria above all other clubs. Many clubs are linked with these three brilliant players.

Source: Milannews.it


Before Pirlo there was Rui. But the man still loves me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Seriously??!! No ****!!! First refusal!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Why? What did we do for Benfica??!!
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post Jun 1 2010, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 1 2010, 03:30 AM) *
Before Pirlo there was Rui. But the man still loves me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Seriously??!! No ****!!! First refusal!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Why? What did we do for Benfica??!!


Rui basically runs Benfica and he is obviously a milanista (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Gotta love rui <3

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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 1 2010, 03:55 AM) *
Nope afraid not jack. Those figures are what we pay and then they get taxed and the players receive their wage. We pay 16m Euros for Ronaldinho and he receives 8m after taxes.


Um. No, not so much. At least not according to Milan's audited financial statements. We don't pay the taxes on wages according to the audit.
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QUOTE (Dzeko @ Jun 1 2010, 10:06 AM) *
At this point of time it's hard to tell anything about new transfer ( my personall opinion is that he won't go no where one more season ), we should snipe him last year when we could get him for 25 Mil € when Leonardo wanted him ( i hate Berlusconi and Galliani Leo made the a fortune with Kaka, Pato etc etc they should listen to him =... Personally Dzeko is my friend ( and one of the best strikers in the world )but 40 Mil € for him is crazy because we are buying him from Wolfsburg that is mid table German club. I love Milan and i think that at the moment we don't need Dzeko our main target should be defence - flanks - mid - for 40 Mil € we can buy three or four great players. We will see what is going to happend.

U see he want us : http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...sl=de&tl=en

Well, I know that we have problems in defence but we have more in the attack. We need a player like Edin Dzeko who can score often.

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