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post May 28 2010, 09:25 PM
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we should force him to!!!!
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post May 28 2010, 09:44 PM
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I agree with all of you. I've known that Huntelaar won't develop in our league because in Serie A there are the strongest defenders so I think that his best choice would be Premier League, Bundes Liga or maybe Eredivisie (there where he started his career.
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post May 28 2010, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE (Blackmaster @ May 28 2010, 09:44 PM) *
I agree with all of you. I've known that Huntelaar won't develop in our league because in Serie A there are the strongest defenders so I think that his best choice would be Premier League, Bundes Liga or maybe Eredivisie (there where he started his career.


I'm not so sure it's black and white as that.

3 Dutch players: Huntelaar, Sneijder, Robben. All failed at Real Madrid, a league which has weaker defences and much more room for showboating and penetrating attacking football.

Hunt: Still has sort of failed at Milan, in a tougher league, but has scored some vital goals and some great goals in his time here. Given a chance, he could still be something decent for us.

Sneijder: Looks a snip at the £13M or so tag - been a revelation in Italy, quite a contrast to Hunter's fate.

Robben: Been great in Germany, as he was in England.

The point being some might have said Ronaldinho would fail in Italy for the reasons you're citing, but after a slow start he was probably, along with Ambro, our most important player last season.
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post May 28 2010, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ May 28 2010, 10:01 PM) *
I'm not so sure it's black and white as that.

3 Dutch players: Huntelaar, Sneijder, Robben. All failed at Real Madrid, a league which has weaker defences and much more room for showboating and penetrating attacking football.

Hunt: Still has sort of failed at Milan, in a tougher league, but has scored some vital goals and some great goals in his time here. Given a chance, he could still be something decent for us.

Sneijder: Looks a snip at the £13M or so tag - been a revelation in Italy, quite a contrast to Hunter's fate.

Robben: Been great in Germany, as he was in England.

The point being some might have said Ronaldinho would fail in Italy for the reasons you're citing, but after a slow start he was probably, along with Ambro, our most important player last season.


I know that Huntelaar, Snejide and Robben have failed at Real Madrid and they're not the first time because there are a lot of players who have failed at Real Madrid like Kaka', Alonso, C.Ronaldo (he was better in Manchester United) etc.

Hunt: I know that while he was in Ajax he was called 'Second Van Basten' but when he transfered to Real Madrid he failed and then when he came to Milan Leonardo didn't let him to play from the first minute for many matches and now I don't think that he will come back as the Huntelaar of Ajax.

Snejider & Robben: I didn't said that they're failed now too, they are playing very well but Huntelaar compared with Snejider and Robben he was totally failed.

Ronaldinho is finished man. He had done only those assists and some goals, nothing else. He makes show because he's used to do it like in Barcelona because the defenders there are terrible, but in Italy is different, you can't make skills because you have the best defenders in the world, Ronaldinho can make a skill to the first defender than to the second but not to the third, the third will certanly take it from him, and what's the worst thing that all the Milan's game is depended from Ronaldinho because all the balls go to him (I mean all the players pass to him), he can make only 10% of exact passes and 90% fails, so there are lots of other bad thing that Ronaldinho do like he doesn't run and he is destroying Pato because Pato plays only on the left and not on the right.

P.S. Until Ronaldinho is here, Pato and Milan are destroyed.
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post May 28 2010, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE (Blackmaster @ May 28 2010, 11:26 PM) *
Ronaldinho is finished man. He had done only those assists and some goals, nothing else. He makes show because he's used to do it like in Barcelona because the defenders there are terrible, but in Italy is different, you can't make skills because you have the best defenders in the world, Ronaldinho can make a skill to the first defender than to the second but not to the third, the third will certanly take it from him, and what's the worst thing that all the Milan's game is depended from Ronaldinho because all the balls go to him (I mean all the players pass to him), he can make only 10% of exact passes and 90% fails, so there are lots of other bad thing that Ronaldinho do like he doesn't run and he is destroying Pato because Pato plays only on the left and not on the right.

P.S. Until Ronaldinho is here, Pato and Milan are destroyed.


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QUOTE (Blackmaster @ May 28 2010, 11:26 PM) *
I know that Huntelaar, Snejide and Robben have failed at Real Madrid and they're not the first time because there are a lot of players who have failed at Real Madrid like Kaka', Alonso, C.Ronaldo (he was better in Manchester United) etc.


No man, Ronaldo was great for Madrid this season. Without him, Real aren't even half the squad they currently are.

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post May 28 2010, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE (Blackmaster @ May 28 2010, 05:26 PM) *
I know that Huntelaar, Snejide and Robben have failed at Real Madrid and they're not the first time because there are a lot of players who have failed at Real Madrid like Kaka', Alonso, C.Ronaldo (he was better in Manchester United) etc.

Hunt: I know that while he was in Ajax he was called 'Second Van Basten' but when he transfered to Real Madrid he failed and then when he came to Milan Leonardo didn't let him to play from the first minute for many matches and now I don't think that he will come back as the Huntelaar of Ajax.

Snejider & Robben: I didn't said that they're failed now too, they are playing very well but Huntelaar compared with Snejider and Robben he was totally failed.

Ronaldinho is finished man. He had done only those assists and some goals, nothing else. He makes show because he's used to do it like in Barcelona because the defenders there are terrible, but in Italy is different, you can't make skills because you have the best defenders in the world, Ronaldinho can make a skill to the first defender than to the second but not to the third, the third will certanly take it from him, and what's the worst thing that all the Milan's game is depended from Ronaldinho because all the balls go to him (I mean all the players pass to him), he can make only 10% of exact passes and 90% fails, so there are lots of other bad thing that Ronaldinho do like he doesn't run and he is destroying Pato because Pato plays only on the left and not on the right.

P.S. Until Ronaldinho is here, Pato and Milan are destroyed.


He ONLY scored all those goals and assists? Dude, he led the Serie A in assists and possible assists. That typically means you're the best passer in the league or just really lucky. Usually people do not think that an assist leader is finished. You probably just expect him to blow to world away like at Barca, which he is not going to do. BUT that doesn't mean he isn't a good player. He is still very much above average for a Serie A player and is performing as such.

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post May 28 2010, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 28 2010, 09:47 PM) *
No man, Ronaldo was great for Madrid this season. Without him, Real aren't even half the squad they currently are.

Yes I know that he's the most important player in Real Madrid now but he played better last season with Manchester United.
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post May 28 2010, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE (Dracoris @ May 28 2010, 09:56 PM) *
He ONLY scored all those goals and assists? Dude, he led the Serie A in assists and possible assists. That typically means you're the best passer in the league or just really lucky. Usually people do not think that an assist leader is finished. You probably just expect him to blow to world away like at Barca, which he is not going to do. BUT that doesn't mean he isn't a good player. He is still very much above average for a Serie A player and is performing as such.

Man, we don't need for Ronaldinho's assists, we need for Pato's insights. In Italy you must run, otherwise you're nothing, remember italian's defenders are very stronger.
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post May 28 2010, 11:15 PM
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Well I don't know if you remember but Pato was out injured for 3 months. Without Ronnie in those 3 months, we might have been in the Europa League again. Sorry, I just can't agree with you here. Ronaldinho was too vital a player for us this year. The only reason I can see him doing worse next year would be because Leo is gone. Stats don't lie and I'm sorry but he was our best player this year. He played in more games than everyone else, Tied second in scoring, led the team and Serie A in assists, and led the Serie A in possible assists. Assists are as good as goals b/c without them there is no goal, thats why its given its own stat. So to say we don't need his assists to win is like saying we don't need goals to win, which is just not true.

Now, all that being said, he accomplished all of this year because of Leo's ability to motivate him and his desire to be in the World Cup. So perhaps he won't be able to repeat a performance like that. In this case, I could understand selling him, but how are we to know his performance will drop?
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post May 28 2010, 11:30 PM
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Ronaldinho should be sold for two reasons: he's inconsistent and the whole team depends on him. The guys has glimpses of genius every now and then, but for most of the time he's asleep on field. Such inconsistency damages the squad a lot. The same thing could be said when we had Kakà, but Kakà was a monster that made the whole team move around. He didn't just receive the ball with everyone hoping he'd deliver an assist or a through pass. Ronaldinho is that kind of player. He's lazy, demotivated, getting old, a younger version of Seedorf that is. Yes, he was one of our best players this season, but just looking at the numbers won't solve our problems.
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post May 29 2010, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE (Blackmaster @ May 28 2010, 06:05 PM) *
Man, we don't need for Ronaldinho's assists, we need for Pato's insights. In Italy you must run, otherwise you're nothing, remember italian's defenders are very stronger.

i think ur mistaken... have u ever seen "il pupone" play?
- his favorite hobby= walking
- deff one of the best players in italy

dinho should stay and when seedorf leaves.. he will fill his position as our experienced attacking mid for a couple of years
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post May 29 2010, 02:08 AM
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as for huntelaar... i think allegri would make him a quality foward again... im really exited for next season...Allegri's style is something too look forward too, i bet he will have the guts to finally get rid of some our old warriors(best example favalli, kaladze, ect...)
if allegri is the guy. wat formation you think we should expect?
im preatty convinced that astori, lazzari and nene(not completly sure on this one) will arrive along with him
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post May 29 2010, 02:24 AM
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QUOTE (sansiro1708 @ May 29 2010, 02:59 AM) *
dinho should stay and when seedorf leaves.. he will fill his position as our experienced attacking mid for a couple of years


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post May 29 2010, 06:00 AM
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i might be out of topic but please watch these highlights of our of the home game vs cagliari...
MAMMA MIA LAZZARI
enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4PucF_7V-E...feature=related

now lets imagine a little of both worlds...(reminding ourselves against what team allegri was playing and what a fight it put out considering cagliari's budget)
also... bravo R10

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post May 29 2010, 10:25 AM
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Milan, addio Dzeko: firma con il City

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Huntelaar rimarrà al Milan, dopo l'annuncio del passaggio al City di Roberto Mancini di Dzeko. Secondo la Gazzetta, il Wolfsburg ha in mano una clausola da 40 milioni, ma la volontà del giocatore inseguito da Juventus e Milan da tempo, sarà assecondata: il club tedesco dalla sua cessione incasserà 35 milioni tondi tondi. Il City gli darà un quinquennale da 4,8 milioni l'anno, una cifra troppo alta attualmente per le casse dei rossoneri.


translate :

Milan, farewell Dzeko: signs with the City


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Huntelaar will stay at Milan, after the announcement of the move to City by Roberto Mancini Dzeko. According to the Journal, the VfL Wolfsburg is holding a clause of 40 million, but the will of the player being chased by Juventus and Milan for some time, will be indulged: the German club will cash sale of its 35 million round round. The City will give him a five-year from 4.8 million a year, a figure too high now for the coffers of the Rossoneri.


source TMW.


Damir do you have any information about this ?
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