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post Mar 2 2010, 08:39 PM
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rahter miss the Roma game then Man U ?
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post Mar 2 2010, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Mar 2 2010, 10:51 PM) *
(but not those belonging to Locke's donkeys)

I'd guess it's their guess that he's out a week because he sustained the injury on a sunday and is having a follow up exam 8 days later.

(Surely not!)

No, they're saying "Milan have confirmed he'll onlly miss 7-10 days". the announcement never said that. it just said there'll be another test on Monday. he could be given all clear for the Man U game by then or be told that he'd have to sit out another couple days or something.
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post Mar 2 2010, 09:19 PM
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Yup. Which is an example of why goal.com is...not reliable.
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post Mar 2 2010, 09:36 PM
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Pato will most likely rest this one out, as a precaution, I'd rather he be there on our slim 'very slim' chance of advancing in the CL. Plus, he'll be at tip top shape to do damage. This, considering most of our stars will be a bit lacking from the Roma game
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post Mar 3 2010, 02:24 PM
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even is Goal.com is reliable or not. I hope Pato plays agianst Man U
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post Mar 6 2010, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 28 2010, 05:01 PM) *
And despite missing 2 and a half months of action due to injury he's currently 3rd in the scorers table with 12 goals.

And all this in a season where some keep talking about how off-form he's been!


I can't deny the goals he's scoring - I guess he's just not the kind of player I expected him to be after last season.

I thought we had a pretender to the Messi crown of dribbling and control, where he could weave his way through multiple players with electric pace and produce something at the end of it.

Whether that was a flash in the pan, or whether he's not been able to cope with more pressure on him I'm not sure, that side of his game is nigh-on gone.

Don't get me wrong, to be left as just a really exceptional goalscorer is no bad consolation, and he's invaluable to us, but there's still a part of me that expects him to play like the potential of last year, and when he doesn't, I am inevitably disappointed.
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post Mar 6 2010, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Mar 6 2010, 12:54 PM) *
I can't deny the goals he's scoring - I guess he's just not the kind of player I expected him to be after last season.

I thought we had a pretender to the Messi crown of dribbling and control, where he could weave his way through multiple players with electric pace and produce something at the end of it.

Whether that was a flash in the pan, or whether he's not been able to cope with more pressure on him I'm not sure, that side of his game is nigh-on gone.

Don't get me wrong, to be left as just a really exceptional goalscorer is no bad consolation, and he's invaluable to us, but there's still a part of me that expects him to play like the potential of last year, and when he doesn't, I am inevitably disappointed.

Kaka had the same problem in his second season. In his first season he was electric and in the second when Serie A defenders were sticking to him and double teaming him he struggled a lot more, but he adapted to the tight marking and tough tackling and got on with what he did best. I think Pato is sort of experiancing the same thing, last season defenders were more worried about kicking Kaka and Dinho (when playing) they forgot about the young kid, this season he's getting a lot of tough treatment from defenders, he's getting fouled a lot more, defenders are marking him a lot more tightly so he's finding it harder to make those dazzling runs and tricks he used to pull of so easily.

If you put Messi in Serie A he wouldn't last a week. Put Pato in the La Liga and he'll do what Messi does week in week out easily. The two leagues are completely different, so you can't compare a player who plays in La Liga to one who plays in Serie A, especially since Messi has been around for longer then Pato
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post Mar 6 2010, 03:01 PM
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@ Danny

I completely understand that. personally I'm happy as long as he keeps scoring goals cause I know his other abilities which have been rather nonexistent this season will be back sooner or later. IMO talent cannot be a flash in the pan.

And comparing Pato to Messi is so completely, completely unfair. for pretty much the same reasons han pointed out here:

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 6 2010, 04:51 PM) *
If you put Messi in Serie A he wouldn't last a week. Put Pato in the La Liga and he'll do what Messi does week in week out easily. The two leagues are completely different, so you can't compare a player who plays in La Liga to one who plays in Serie A, especially since Messi has been around for longer then Pato


If you've watched Argentina's Messi you probably have seen he just can't do what he does in La Liga there simply because La Liga is dribblers' heaven. their defenders give you so much space to do whatever you want it's ridiculous. and their defensive abilities are certainly not as good as as Serie A defenders'.

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post Mar 6 2010, 04:30 PM
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Messi wouldn't last a week in Serie A? No way, he'd take some time to adapt but c'mon its Messi. He would be pretty influential no matter where he plays.
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post Mar 6 2010, 05:14 PM
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I think it was about Messi the dribbler not Messi the influential player (see the bit I've quoted below). a goalscorer can be influential as well, like Pato is. and when I look at Messi's performances for Argentina (like against Germany a few days ago) or even some of Barca's CL games, I can't disagree with it. as I said, La Liga is dribblers' heaven!

Watch Barca's game vs Almeria tonight (edit: and this, of course (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) and you'll see what we mean.

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QUOTE (Dracoris @ Mar 6 2010, 04:30 PM) *
Messi wouldn't last a week in Serie A? No way, he'd take some time to adapt but c'mon its Messi. He would be pretty influential no matter where he plays.

Like Zeddie said, I was talking about the dribbling and dazzling runs. Messi would eventually adapt as well, just like Pato is still adapting.
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post Mar 7 2010, 07:46 PM
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Pato will have some tests tomorrow , and hope he'll be ready for Manchester Uniteds clash.
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post Mar 8 2010, 10:39 AM
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The reason I admire this kid a lot is the fact that amidst all that hype and at such a tender age, the kid had the balls to carry an offensively weak team. This season has not lived up to the promise though. I hope Old Trafford changes everything.
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post Mar 8 2010, 12:03 PM
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AC Milan Star Alexandre Pato Racing To Be Fit For Champions League Duel With Manchester United

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Brazilian striker Alexandre Pato appears to be winning his race to make the AC Milan squad for Wednesday’s Champions League last 16 second leg clash with Manchester United.

Pato suffered a hamstring injury on February 28 and missed Milan’s draw with Roma in Serie A on Saturday.

But the Corriere dello Sport reports that the 20-year-old briefly trained with the rest of the squad at Milanello yesterday before resuming his work in the gym.

Pato will go in for fresh scans this morning and is expected to travel to England regardless of the test results.

But there are high hopes he will be given the green light to play, although he is unlikely to feature from the start.

Milan will have to overturn a 3-2 deficit from the first leg to advance to the quarter-finals of the competition.

source : goal.com
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post Mar 8 2010, 03:27 PM
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Great news,to say the least (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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