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Dec 3 2009, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Dec 3 2009, 06:31 PM)  I've seen worse players win the World Cup, it does not mean anything. But you're right, average has to be put in a context. I don't mean average compared to every RB out there. What I meant was that compared to the other top full-backs around, his defending is not the best but not the worse either. Well, let's dissect this. The top fullbacks around these days would arguably be: Bosingwa, Abidal, Alvez, Maicon, Cicinho. I'm sure I've missed many out, but it seems to me Ramos is up there with all of them in both an attacking and defending context. It would be hard to accurately say which one is the best in defence, or the best in attack, but I think the fairest way of putting it is that it would be harsh to say any of them are average in any context compared with the others. QUOTE I did not criticize his ability. When I said he's average in defense I did not mean he lacks any qualities. He does have qualities... I think saying he does not use them correctly is pretty much self-explanatory... he's fast, he's a good tackler, has got good reflexes and his positioning is good but I don't see him use all that all the time and at the same time. Maybe he lacks concentration, I don't know. So, what you are in effect saying is he's not the world's best right back because he's guilty of committing the same sin every player on earth does: inconsistency. That's what it seems to me. No player will be consistently brilliant and at their best in every match. They are only human, after all.
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Dec 3 2009, 09:11 PM
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Fishdoll is surprised dst hasn't smited you all for bringing up other players in this thread!
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Dec 3 2009, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 3 2009, 09:58 PM)  Oohh, so Maldini just made up what he said then. Fool. What did you expect Maldini to say, "what did you bring me here for, this guy is useless!"? You're so dumb!
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Dec 4 2009, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Dec 3 2009, 10:53 PM)  Yeah, "hearing foreign languages in the dressing room" is the very essence of betrayal. Poor little Ashley. I meant the £££ he was promised, onlynot to be given it. The fact that it was only £5k more he was promised is irrelevant, when you're promised something by your club you should get that. I don't think it was the extra £5k that annoyed him as such, but the principle (His first Chelsea contract was very similar to the Arsenal contract at the time which also suggests it wasn't the money). Cashley is just made up because he went to a team with lots of money. Much like people say Barry went to City for money, despite him being offered the same deal by Villa.
This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Dec 4 2009, 01:18 AM
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Dec 4 2009, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 4 2009, 12:16 AM)  I meant the £££ he was promised, only to be offered a deal of less. The fact that it was only £5k less is irrelevant, when you're promised something by your club you should get that. I don't think it was the extra £5k that annoyed him as such, but the principle (His first Chelsea contract was very similar to the Arsenal contract at the time which also suggests it wasn't the money). Cashley is just made up because he went to a team with lots of money. Much like people say Barry went to City for money, despite him being offered the same deal by Villa. I don't think any of the above is the problem, I think it was his emotional disgust at claming he was worth 50K when only offered 45K. It was unnecessary outrage he expressed in his autobiography - over a matter of 5K. Fair enough, to an extent, if they'd undervalued him at 30K where he felt he was a 50K player, but this was greedy outrage and it made him one of the most hated players in England whose attitude laughed at thousands of supporters who struggled to make in 2 years what he gets in a week.
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Dec 4 2009, 01:33 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 4 2009, 12:22 AM)  He hardly had to say he was his heir though did he. You're so dumb! Now STFU and GTFO. Maldini said Ramos could be his heir... but I would not expect an idiot like you to get the difference! I heart you! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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Dec 5 2009, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 4 2009, 03:14 PM)  Anyone could be his heir, I could be. There's a reason he says this about Ramos though. But I would not expect an idiot like you to get that! Yes, retard, the reason is that Ramos is a big fan of Maldini and Maldini did not want to disappoint poor lil' Ramos.
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