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post Sep 24 2009, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 24 2009, 07:13 PM) *
How about he miraculously just starts scoring. Like Amr Zaki for Wigan.


zaki, we could a powerful guy leading the attack
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post Sep 24 2009, 11:23 PM
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Zaki is awful, why is he even being compared to Huntelaar! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Sep 25 2009, 06:27 AM
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No one's comparing him. I just said, it would have been awfully nice of Klaas to start scoring from the word go..just like Zaki. Or Arshavin, if you wanna be such a stubborn mule about it. I know your birthday just got over, so I'm not going to hurt your feelings.
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post Sep 25 2009, 11:08 AM
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Compare was the wrong word to use, I also wasn't responding to you, Mr. CentreoftheUniverse. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 25 2009, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 25 2009, 03:38 PM) *
Compare was the wrong word to use, I also wasn't responding to you, Mr. CentreoftheUniverse. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


That's Sir CentreoftheUniverse to you. If you're gonna address me by title, at least do it properly.

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post Sep 25 2009, 12:06 PM
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I really hope Hunter proves me hopelessly wrong, and soon, but right now he's just not doing it for Milan at all. I said we should have spent the few extra on Fabiano, and I want to eat those words soon as possible.
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post Sep 25 2009, 01:32 PM
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And how do you know Fabiano would be doing so much better?

I'm not saying he wouldn't but we can't look back and say what if because there's no proof that things would be different.
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post Sep 25 2009, 05:15 PM
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The reason I hoped I'd not see Fabiano at Milan was mainly his age, and a little his nationality. maybe he would have done a bit better now (since the Hunter can only finish the chances provided for him while Fabiano can create chances for himself) but I think the REAL problem is the lack of a great attacking midfielder. as long as Kaka's void is not filled we will struggle, IMO.
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post Sep 25 2009, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 25 2009, 05:15 PM) *
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The reason I hoped I'd not see Fabiano at Milan was mainly his age, and a little his nationality. maybe he would have done a bit better now (since the Hunter can only finish the chances provided for him while Fabiano can create chances for himself) but I think the REAL problem is the lack of a great attacking midfielder. as long as Kaka's void is not filled we will struggle, IMO.


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post Sep 25 2009, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Sep 25 2009, 01:32 PM) *
And how do you know Fabiano would be doing so much better?

I'm not saying he wouldn't but we can't look back and say what if because there's no proof that things would be different.


In a better league for a supposedly inferior team, he has scored 2 goals. He continues to do the business for Brazil, starting every match.

KJH has appeared sparingly in Serie A and done very little, including no goals. He's scored 0 competitive goals for his country in 2009, appearing only as a sub 3 times.

There's no proof for anything - Messi could fail in Serie A just like Sheva did in England. But if you compare in a like-for-like manner these 2 strikers playing for big Spanish and Italian sides respectively, one is clearly doing much, much better than the other.

When KJH justifies the cost and starts scoring and looking the part, I'll be the first fan here to credit him and praise him. I certainly do not want him to fail. But his start has been poor and since his Ajax days, there's little in his club career to suggest he's a prolific scorer.

I am not on his back, unlike some who would practically rather Ronaldinho died on the pitch than played well. I just have high expectations of any player who costs that kind of money and then wears the red and black. And I think that's acceptable (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 25 2009, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 25 2009, 05:15 PM) *
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The reason I hoped I'd not see Fabiano at Milan was mainly his age, and a little his nationality. maybe he would have done a bit better now (since the Hunter can only finish the chances provided for him while Fabiano can create chances for himself) but I think the REAL problem is the lack of a great attacking midfielder. as long as Kaka's void is not filled we will struggle, IMO.


Or we can change the system and not rely on such a player. Man Utd haven't had an attacking midfield player for about 10 years since Paul Scholes got old. They use rigid CM's and dynamic wingers and have themselves plenty of leagues, cups and CLs. Any reason Milan aren't allowed that system?
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post Sep 25 2009, 06:43 PM
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When Huntelaar does score, I will make sure to analyse it to see if it's a goal that 'counts'. I remember all of the ridiculous Gila criticism, depsite scoring 17 goals in his first season was stupid because people felt they weren't 'important' (despite the fact I proved otherwise. Huntelaar won't be any better than Gila, in my opinion.

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post Sep 25 2009, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 25 2009, 06:43 PM) *
When Huntelaar does score, I will make sure to analyse it to see if it's a goal that 'counts'. I remember all of the ridiculous Gila criticism, depsite scoring 17 goals in his first season was stupid because people felt they weren't 'important' (despite the fact I proved otherwise. Huntelaar won't be any better than Gila, in my opinion.


you are sooo right my friend. gila didn't get enough credit for what he did, i have high hopes for huntelaar, he's probably not physical enough to play against rigid serie-a defenses, pato gets by with his pace, inzaghi does the same with his positioning kjh just has to focus on his own strength
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post Sep 26 2009, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE (ganney @ Sep 25 2009, 02:11 PM) *
you are sooo right my friend. gila didn't get enough credit for what he did, i have high hopes for huntelaar, he's probably not physical enough to play against rigid serie-a defenses, pato gets by with his pace, inzaghi does the same with his positioning kjh just has to focus on his own strength



I think Pippo took lady luck hostage and carries her around in his pocket
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post Sep 26 2009, 03:15 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 25 2009, 06:43 PM) *
When Huntelaar does score, I will make sure to analyse it to see if it's a goal that 'counts'. I remember all of the ridiculous Gila criticism, depsite scoring 17 goals in his first season was stupid because people felt they weren't 'important' (despite the fact I proved otherwise. Huntelaar won't be any better than Gila, in my opinion.


All strikers score, there is not a sane person that would argue would the goal count or not. The important thing is that the striker delivers. But then there is the issue of is he the right player? Gilardino was not the right player for us, IMO Huntelaar isn't either. we need someone like Dzeko, strong and forceful (Drogba would have been ideal), who can bulldoze his way through defenses. Players like Gilardino or Huntelaar, come with hype and when they do not do a Marco Van Basten they get hung the next day, when in reality they are average at best.
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