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post Aug 25 2009, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE (Habitant @ Aug 25 2009, 05:13 PM) *
oh sorry all of 20 minutes he played in that campaign.

i love how all you can dig out is that ambro scores more than gattuso, good for him 4-5 goals more a season obviously that makes him a far more effective because thats how we judge players.

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post Aug 25 2009, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (Habitant @ Aug 25 2009, 06:13 PM) *
i love how all you can dig out is that ambro scores more than gattuso, good for him 4-5 goals more a season obviously that makes him a far more effective because thats how we judge players.

It's no more stupid than basing a players ability on how many appearances a player makes.

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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 25 2009, 06:58 PM) *
It's no more stupid than basing a players ability on how many appearances a player makes.

why is that? obviously a player who's inferior to another would play less than the later over the course of, oh lets say a whole decade?!?! time is the great equaliser.

of course if ambro scored 10-15 goals EVERY despite other frailities i would rate him higher but he only has around 15 more goals in his career with milan than gattuso, ove the course of 15 years here! ambrosini scroing more than gattuso is hardly a factor when you look at the whole picture, it's because he's scored mroe in recent years and it's effected ur judgement.

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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 25 2009, 06:58 PM) *
It's no more stupid than basing a players ability on how many appearances a player makes.

Its not stupid, it means he's good enough to be a regular starter in the team he plays for, Ambro will only ever be that if he moves to a second rate club...

Maybe Villa can take him off our hands



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post Aug 25 2009, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE (Habitant @ Aug 25 2009, 06:17 PM) *
why is that? obviously a player who's inferior to another would play less than the later over the course of, oh lets say a whole decade?!?! time is the great equaliser.

of course if ambro scored 10-15 goals EVERY despite other frailities i would rate him higher but he only has around 15 more goals in his career with milan than gattuso, ove the course of 15 years here! ambrosini scroing more than gattuso is hardly a factor when you look at the whole picture, it's because he's scored mroe in recent years and it's effected ur judgement.

Exactly, its only these past 2 seasons that Ambro has scored a lot, he got 7 last season and something like 4 the one before that.

When you look at all the seasons he's played he usually only scored 1-3 goals a season, 3 being on a rare season
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post Aug 25 2009, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE (Habitant @ Aug 25 2009, 07:17 PM) *
why is that? obviously a player who's inferior to another would play less than the later over the course of, oh lets say a whole decade?!?! time is the great equaliser.

You only have to look at Ole Solskjaer to see this isn't true. Alot of United strikers over the years started more/appearaed in more games than him, due to his injuries/being sub alot, yet his scoring record was better than most.
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post Aug 25 2009, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 25 2009, 06:22 PM) *
You only have to look at Ole Solskjaer to see this isn't true. Alot of United strikers over the years started more/appearaed in more games than him, due to his injuries/being sub alot, yet his scoring record was better than most.

You're comparing a striker with a defensive midfielder, to me this is a total different thing as Ole had the killer instinct, he could score at any time on the pitch even if he's just on there for 5 minutes and SAF always knew this.

While Ambro is a different case. On most occasions the coach had either him or Rino to choose who to start in the DM position and Rino always got the nod, this is a decision based on who will help the team more, not just on putting the player on at the right time to grab a goal, like one would do with Pippo for example.
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post Aug 25 2009, 07:31 PM
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ya han you just reminded me of something, during carlos "magnus defensus" era (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) when we always played with 1 striker and emerson would come on as an attacking sub, ambro was very often used as a cf forward late in games.
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Ole Solskjaer can be compared to inzaghi not ambrosini ambrosini was always a sub until 2 years ago
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 25 2009, 06:43 PM) *
Fishdoll +1 cookie to Hab for the naming of the Magnus Defensus Era. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i was gonna name difesa magnifica, but latin always sounds more scientific (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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Kurt, why do you bother, just give up you can't win. Your wasting your time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 26 2009, 02:02 AM) *
Kurt, why do you bother, just give up you can't win. Your wasting your time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

+ 1 to kurt for expressing his opinions and sticking to his guns well done mate theres alot of bottle down there
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 26 2009, 03:02 AM) *
Kurt, why do you bother, just give up you can't win. Your wasting your time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

It's nothing to do with winning or losing really and wasting my time on what?
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