I understand all your points and it makes sense but explain to me a few things. Why is the majority of clubs on loan deals etc and we can't be? Second why do you think silvio doesn't sell the club.

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Just vote for both questions.

I voted for option 1a as I think he was forced out and also for 2a as I think that if it had come down to his salary Milan should have given it to him no questions asked. If you want to be a big club and have the star players then you have to pay them what they earn, and concidering Kaka had been carrying this team for 3 years he should have been paid better.

I voted 1a and 2b.

If he'd wanted out, he could have placed a transfer request. I don't consider having opted for Madrid over City an act of betrayal. He did the right thing for himself without screwing us. If the club wanted to keep him, they coulda given Perez the same treatment as they did Calderon. In fact they stopped short of wrapping Kaka up in gift paper, once Kaka said he'd go.

That's the only decent thing Milan did. They didn't sell him off to City, despite the higher money. They had some interest of the player in heart.

2b. You cannot raise Kaka's wage without raising the wage of others. He carried the team? He carried the attack. Maldini carried the defence for nearly 2 years . What if Maldini demanded a raise on par with Kaka? In that I agree with the club saying a rise in Kaka's wage automatically translated to a rise in all player's wages to make it proportionate.

Kaka was earning 9 million. The next highest was Berlusca's boytoy R80 @7. While Pirlo was earning around 5-6 million. I think that's a fair reflection of each one's importance to the team.

I agree with both you and han. Am I going crazy? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

every player's got a price, i think we got a good deal too

Looking at what Inter got for Ibra we were flat out robbed on the Kaka deal. Had the management not been so money hungry that they could barely wait for the season to end before selling him we would have gotten a much better deal. And the fact that we didn't involve any Real players in the deal is even more ridiculous, expecially concidering the fact that we bought Huntelaar off them a couple of months later (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Our management have gone from the best around when it comes to transfer dealings to the ones that get played by everyone.

And so what else is new ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Our management is a joke and our team is the laughing stock of the world!

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I think our deal came with strings attached.

For one, both CR and Kaka went for straight cash. While Ibra's for all you know might be instalments. Secondly the first preference for their players also played into our hands.

We did get Huntelaar for really cheap. Considering that just a year back he was worth 26 million. I don't think it was an all bad deal.

We should have gotten a player in that deal, then you'd be able to say we did the best we could. What we got is surely not peanuts in any sense but then you look at CR and Ibra and you think we could have pushed for some more. The deal was finalized very quickly...

Considering the seasons off which CR and Kaka were coming off, I don't think we can argue about the different pricings.

It's the difference in price between the world player of the year and former world player of the year. Our emotions might tell us otherwise, but that's not something transfer market pays any attention to.

Ibra was something, I still feel Barca did to keep up with the Madrids. Was Eto'o really worth the remaining amount which would make up for the Kaka sale amount? Considering he had one season left and wouldn't get his contract renewed, realistically he was worth maybe 15-18 million for Barca if they put him up for sale this season. A player exchange was the only thing they could do. So they cleaned up the house and got a good player in the bargain. While Inter's pre-season doesn't seem to suggest Eto'o will become the player Ibra was to them.

We might have pushed for more, but I think the plan on Galliani's part was to do this early as possible. To do it late in the transfer campaign (assuming extensive negotiations) would have destabilised the team. Kind of what happened with Berbatov and Spurs.

I feel Kaka wanted to stay but I can't imagine leaving for Madrid was the end of the world for him by any means. if he had been given the freedom of choice when Madrid's offer arrived, I think he would've stayed just like he did about their previous offers. but he was asked (not forced) to leave, so he just accepted it.
I also think the club didn't really bother to sell him to Man City for that crazy money, but they had enough dignity left to not force him join a club which he obviously didn't want to join. bottom line, I think money wasn't an issue for Kaka as he was already one of the the 2 top earners in the world IINM so I definitely disagree that he's a money whore.

So my votes are 1a and 2b.

None of the two deserve that money, we're talking Madrid here, you really think that they'd say no if we had asked for 80m or as much as we asked + a player? I'm sure they'd just splash the money. I did not talk about doing it late, this was on the other side, one day we hear Galliani is in Madrid to talk about Kaka the next he is officially gone...

Yeah we could have milked this alot more then we did, Kaka' is 10x times the player Ribery is yet madrid were ready to plash out 80M plus Robben and Sneijder. Look at the ibra deal, you're telling me we couln't of gotten Klaas as part of that deal?!