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post May 14 2009, 08:11 AM
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Agree with you Jack, a midfield with Pirlo, Becks and Yoann would be over run.

I think the best posiible solution would be to either revert to a 4-2-3-1 formation or use our old 4-3-2-1/4-3-1-2 and play Yoann next to Pirlo and Rino/Flamini next season. But atm I'm more worried about losing him more then anything else. Let's just wait and see what happens.

Hopefully if he does decide to return, Carlo won't shut him out again.

I think the best possible formation we could hope for next season would be this

Flamini--Nesta/WC CB--Silva/Bonera--Zambro
Yoann--Pirlo--Rino
Kaka
Pato--Dinho/WC target man


I think this would be the right mix of youth and experiance.

The worst possible scenario's my mind is conjuring up for our regular line-up next season should Carlo stay

Zambro--Bonera--Silva--Janku
Becks--Pirlo--Rino
Kaka--Seedorf
Pippo/Pato


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post May 14 2009, 09:31 AM
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In Miz's words; Becks... Schmecks! He should not be a starter for Milan.

Rino - Pirlo - Ambro (or Flam in place of one of the two)
-----Yoann-----
-------------Kaka
Pato----------

when we need 2 dmf's and

Rino - Pirlo
Yoann - Kaka
Pato-------
-------Borry

when we want to play some football.

Also in my view Pirlo's role has to be reinvented. His job is now predictable as it has not changed and his effect is being limited. Had it not been for his brilliant skills that some times allow him to escape from the cage the opposition midfield close him in he would be a faulty cog.
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post May 14 2009, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE (dst @ May 14 2009, 02:01 PM) *
Also in my view Pirlo's role has to be reinvented. His job is now predictable as it has not changed and his effect is being limited. Had it not been for his brilliant skills that some times allow him to escape from the cage the opposition midfield close him in he would be a faulty cog.


I believe the expression for this is 'to damn with faint praise'? Miz?

I actually rate Pirlo higher than Xavi. Xavi's runs into the box are probably the only area where he's better, but Pirlo's vision and long passing trumps.

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post May 14 2009, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 14 2009, 01:06 PM) *
I actually rate Pirlo higher than Xavi. Xavi's runs into the box are probably the only area where he's better, but Pirlo's vision and long passing trumps.


In my opinion, it depends on which Pirlo we're talking about. Pirlo up till the end of the World Cup, yes probably. but the post World Cup Pirlo, I'm not sure.

Maybe it's the luxury of playing in the better team that makes Xavi (and Iniesta) look so great, like the two best midfielders in the world. but then again, the same can be said about the pre-2007 Pirlo.

And I can't see how Xavi's vision and long balls can get any better. it's somewhere near perfect at the moment.
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post May 14 2009, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 14 2009, 11:36 AM) *
I believe the expression for this is 'to damn with faint praise'? Miz?

I actually rate Pirlo higher than Xavi. Xavi's runs into the box are probably the only area where he's better, but Pirlo's vision and long passing trumps.

Who cares about Xavi? I'm talking about Pirlo now, I love the guy and I see him asphyxiate the way he's forced to play in Milan. I think he would be great at the right side, I remember one game when he had to play on the (left) flank he looked shiny new!
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 14 2009, 02:18 PM) *
In my opinion, it depends on which Pirlo we're talking about. Pirlo up till the end of the World Cup, yes probably. but the post World Cup Pirlo, I'm not sure.

Maybe it's the luxury of playing in the better team that makes Xavi (and Iniesta) look so great, like the two best midfielders in the world. but then again, the same can be said about the pre-2007 Pirlo.

And I can't see how Xavi's vision and long balls can get any better. it's somewhere near perfect at the moment.


Pirlo in the WC played a different position. Not the more holding role he occupies now...he's way too withdrawn for my preference.

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It was the same position but he had great covering by the two players next to him so he had more freedom to roam up front.
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Yeah...well position was an unfortunate choice of words...what I meant is he's too withdrawn. I hardly see him upfront... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post May 14 2009, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 14 2009, 01:18 PM) *
Yeah...well position was an unfortunate choice of words...what I meant is he's too withdrawn. I hardly see him upfront... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Don't you see it? It's Carlo's fault! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Carlo's asked Andy to take one for the team..and Andy has. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) . With the state of our defence , we don't stand much chance against a counter attack involving opposing forwards vs. our defence. We desperately need mid-field protection.
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post May 14 2009, 02:23 PM
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Rino, Ambro and Flam are our midfield protection. The only reason why Pirlo plays so deep is because Ancelotti is afraid of even his own shadow and because he clearly has no clue - or maybe no desire - how to use him in a different way.
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He scored a wonderful goal that seedorf can't...I've spoken my mind about Gourcuff over and over n i'm tired of speaking...I've always said he should return...we're waiting Gourcuff

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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ...

You make it sound like all the members on the forum have built a moat around the San Siro against Gourcuff entering Milan again.

If Gourcuff wants, he can come back to Milan. If he doesn't want to,we can't make him. This is the only negative with the contract we signed when we loaned him out to Bordeaux. We can't force him to come back, and then make him like us.

Now the problem will be the demands he makes and how much we are willing to give him.

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post May 14 2009, 04:11 PM
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But Jaaaack! Fishdoll LIKED the idea of a moat around the stadium! He could get his swimming in before matches!
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Alright.

Sell Kaka...build a moat!
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