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post Dec 15 2008, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 15 2008, 08:09 PM) *
I don't see what's wrong with Dinho. He's slow, maybe. But he's needed and he makes his share. Senderos...he hardly came in. Cannot judge someone I didn't see, but then again that also means he isn't that much good.

Sorry if it offends you, Sim. But this is a FACT. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) Agreed!
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post Dec 15 2008, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Dec 15 2008, 10:39 PM) *
With all due respect, Astafjevs, please don't lecture me.

Did I at any point say that Milan were playing well this season? Did I even participate in The Bet this season? No.

Did I say much positive about the transfers? Not too much no.

Do I think everything should be sunshine and lollipops? Nope.

There's a difference between realism and bitter venom. This place is an awful lot closer to the latter than it is to the former, in my opinion.


But you do like getting spanked don't you? You devious, she-devil!!


Chill tennie, we're just a couple of wins away from it turning into sunshine again. You know how we are post Dubai! Relax babe, everything's gonna be alright. Take a break from the forum. Especially with Pana on his power trip again. Why don't you come down to Bangalore? We'll go drinking and catch a cricket match!


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post Dec 15 2008, 05:18 PM
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There's nothing BUT criticism here, that's my point. Except, of course, for the 3 brazilians. And I think there's a good deal of venom in some of what is said. With respect, you haven't been here quite as long as I have to see this, and I really do not appreciate the condescending attitude.

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post Dec 15 2008, 05:20 PM
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Realism means - braging I told ya' so here. That's what it really means. That's what it ment last season, and this season as well in a kindly different manner. Now, I said it. I had to. I have enormous respect on members who don't share my perspective and attitude here, and mostly have a realism-policy, but do that in a tastefull manner. But not many do that in such a way.

I'm upest how completely normal things are being blown out of proportions so much, that other, not so evident things suffer or manage to get out of sight. We all know Emerson isn't that good. Said and done. Can we move on? Or do we have to slam on and on and on, like this is the only problem.

Thing is, I think we're obsessed with realism here. Yesterday I talked to 6 persons who watched the match with me and irritated me enormously by the way. I cannot belive how people who aren't that involved in Milan and all that Emerson, Galliani, brazilian thing see things differently. Gee, I thought, they maybe are right.
I'm frustrated not to find many such comments here. Like we're in some kind of camp war. We stick to our camps even if....Even if Ancelotti plays Emerson on goal, I'll be the one to say, it's not only his fault. And on the other han, even if Emo scores...again someone will show up and tell it was fluke.

Bah! Bitterness.
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post Dec 15 2008, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Dec 15 2008, 04:18 PM) *
There's nothing BUT criticism here, that's my point. Except, of course, for the 3 brazilians. And I think there's a good deal of venom in some of what is said. With respect, you haven't been here quite as long as I have to see this, and I really do not appreciate the condescending attitude.


There's no condescending attitude at all. You'd just rather have a forum where everybody praises the club and players regardless of what is going on. There is criticism because performances have been poor. I've seen it, you've seen it, we've all seen it. It wouldn't be so bad if it was just this season, but as I have said, it is a continuation from last year.
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post Dec 15 2008, 05:29 PM
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Incorrect, Astafjevs. What gives you the idea I want a place where there's no criticism? That's as much of a fantasy world as the one you claim I live in. If you're going to make a harsh comment, it's generally a good idea to find evidence to back it up. All I've been asking for is a little effing balance in the comments/criticism. Not everyone is held to the same standard and those few good things we've seen this season are conveniently forgotten or ignored.
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post Dec 15 2008, 05:31 PM
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Praise is boring and makes you kind of a good school boy. If you criticize harshly, it gives you the ultimate Spartan-Spock like aureola.
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post Dec 15 2008, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 15 2008, 11:01 PM) *
Praise is boring and makes you kind of a good school boy. If you criticize harshly, it gives you the ultimate Spartan-Spock like aureola.


Spartan-Spock? They're both gay, you know!!
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post Dec 15 2008, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE (Astafjevs @ Dec 15 2008, 05:12 PM) *
There's no venom at all. It's frustration from poor performances that the majority of people saw coming in the summer. If you want a forum with members who aren't going to say a word against the club, or criticise any player, then you may as well ban everyone now.


saw it coming ?

it boggles the mind that people here behind their pc's saw it coming and the all experienced people working for milan didnt.

I saw you talking about realism . Well realism isnt those 90 minutes what you see trough a cr@ppy stream on internet or if you're lucky on tv , neither reading those "honest" news & reports on goal.com and channel 4.

Realism is that after the loss , you and I go back working and they are millionaires. So if you wanna be a fan , be a fan , and not one who knows it better the guys actually now training with the players.

I mean ... djeezes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) You saw it coming , good one .

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post Dec 15 2008, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Dec 15 2008, 05:34 PM) *
Spartan-Spock? They're both gay, you know!!

Haha,...I set a trap to myself, didn't I? Oh wait... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Dec 15 2008, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE (Nova @ Dec 15 2008, 09:37 PM) *
I mean ... djeezes You saw it coming , good one .

If a fan has enough know-how and he sees a disjointed team then I don't necessarily think it's too hard to see things coming. As of right now, the game I see from Milan, unless they improve drastically, then I'd have a very hard time pinning hopes on even the 3rd place. Of course, I still want us to win the title, and who knows? They may yet.

Sure not every fan is technical enough, but there are fans (old people) who know more about the club than Galliani and Carlo can ever dream of knowing. No offense to either parties. I've personally known 70-year-old Italians who've seen it all. No, not the 21st century fan who streams the matches, he is just an arm-chair critic. But to question the intellect of die hard fans, is um, questionable.
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post Dec 15 2008, 05:55 PM
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Yup...a Freudian slip on your part Filippo. Look bro, you can come out of the closet any time you want ok? You can be my wingman anytime!
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post Dec 15 2008, 05:55 PM
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Spartans were not gay, they were bisexuals!
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post Dec 15 2008, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Dec 15 2008, 05:55 PM) *
Yup...a Freudian slip on your part Filippo. Look bro, you can come out of the closet any time you want ok? You can be my wingman anytime!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ..I'm still to shy.

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According to a recent hollywood film, they are even more.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)
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Guys Milan's defeat to Juve wasn't a surprise at all...I'M SAYING IT AGAIN Milan would not win the scudetto without buying defenders and using them by the start of January...IT'S THAT SIMPLE I'm tired of thinking that milan would win big defense with our defense when we wouldn't
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