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post Nov 5 2008, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 5 2008, 04:37 PM) *
For those boardmembers critical of Ancelotti: do you think he does anything right? Or is he just a bad coach?

For those boardmembers who defend Ancelotti: do you think he does anything wrong? Or is he just a wonderful coach?

As every other coach there is, he is not all right or all wrong. Whoever thinks the opposite is retarded.
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post Nov 5 2008, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 5 2008, 03:40 PM) *
han, the last time Carlo Ancelotti mentioned Pato in a press conference, he PRAISED him for working on something that needed to be improved. how is this taking a dig and breaking his spirit?

He does praise him at times I'm not saying he's not but he does take small jibes at him at times, today he doesn't work for the team as much as he should, tomorrow he comes out and says that he should finish better. I'm sure if you'll ask zd he'll present to you the entire repertoire of Carlo digs towards Pato.

Sure he sometimes takes some time to praise him on improving something but it always starts with a negative, "he couldn't to this right but now he's working to improve it"

Imo these types of comments should be made 1 on 1 with the kid. Take him aside during training and give him the advice, not announce it to the media.
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post Nov 5 2008, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 5 2008, 03:49 PM) *
Yes Borriello had the talent, he showed it once or twice when he was given a chance the season before he was shipped out. The reason he was brought back is that he showed his worth and thus he came back.

Yes but if Carlo is as you say so good at noticing the talent in players then why didn't he play him before he was shipped out for a co-ownership deal and we had to cough up 10mil to get him back?

Clearly they didn't even expect him to do anything worthwhile at Genoa, otherwise they would have loaned him instead of selling half of his contract.

You even saw the talent, so why couldn't Carlo see it and give him more time? Rather then playing Pippo or Gila who both were firing blanks all season long during the season before he was shipped out

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 5 2008, 03:49 PM) *
Milan didn't loose Gourcuff, Milan loaned him out to get a chance at first team football. For all we know, he could be a first team starter next season (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

BordoueX have an option to buy, thus this gives them first dibs on the player. Why in their right minds would they let him head back to Milan for free when the could keep him for another season or 2 to continue upping his price tag then sell him for a much larger sum?

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 5 2008, 03:49 PM) *
And Pato ... Dunga benched him, Carlo benched him ... Does that me they want to kill his motivation ?! I mean, both Dunga and Carlo pointed out that the kid lacks something and in that aspect we know very little about, as THEY are the experts while all we see is 30 or 90 mins of the kid per week.

Dunga wuld prefer playing a lazy @ss Adriano or the worthless Jo ahead of Pato. While Dunga's problem with Pato was that he wasn't aware of the offside line as he'd like him to be. I don't beleive for a second his reasonings and even if Pato is missing that something he sure as hell has a lot more to offer then those two combined no matter what is said about him.

Let's just say that a Pato with a low morale will surely put him back when it comes to performances, therefore Carlo can bench him.

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 5 2008, 03:49 PM) *
Don't go overboard han, if you feel that you want to stick with your assumptions that Galliani is stingy and Carlo is out to get rid of every youth player there is in his team then I'm not stopping you, just telling you as a friend that there might be something that we all are missing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

There might be something we are missing but there is also a chance that I myself and several others on here are right and we'll see some things change for the positive once Carlo's stint as Milan's coach is over. Mainly youth finally being given a decent chance to break through
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post Nov 5 2008, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 5 2008, 10:06 AM) *
Mainly youth finally being given a decent chance to break through


How do you explain Paloschi?
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post Nov 5 2008, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 5 2008, 08:23 PM) *
How do you explain Paloschi?

A very big stroke of luck, perhaps? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I still can't forget Carlo's impression when the kid scored, it's like something unimaginable happened. This time last year, I know for a fact that that Aubameyang fella was ahead of Paloschi in the pecking order.

Still, this does not mean Carlo is a bad coach. For me, he's one of the very best coaches of Milan, right up there at the top. It's just that he's not perfect. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Like dst said. He can't be. Neither can anybody else. Or else they'd be Maldini.
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post Nov 5 2008, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 5 2008, 04:23 PM) *
How do you explain Paloschi?

Like acid said, a big stroke of luck. We had no strikers at the time. Paloschi was the only option and we were really desperate for a goal, Carlo decided to throw him on. He was just as surprisd by it as everyone else
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post Nov 5 2008, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 6 2008, 12:53 AM) *
Like acid said, a big stroke of luck. We had no strikers at the time. Paloschi was the only option and we were really desperate for a goal, Carlo decided to throw him on. He was just as surprisd by it as everyone else

Exactly. It was almost as if fate wanted him to start for the senior side. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) That's not to say he didn't earn it, those couple of goals he scored before helped his cause. But yeah, as han put it, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't surprised by his goal. So was Carlo.

The constant injuries to Ronaldo also helped his cause, as we had a serious striker shortage at that time. Had Paloschi not scored that goal, and shown good display in other matches, I can be very sure he'd either still be in the youth team, or at least not loaned out to Parma. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) It's just how things work at Milan, for better or for worse.
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post Nov 5 2008, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 5 2008, 02:37 PM) *
For those boardmembers critical of Ancelotti: do you think he does anything right? Or is he just a bad coach?

He does get some credit for things, such as.. selecting Pippo in the starting lineup in Athens. But in his time at Milan I am very disappointed. I don't dislike Carlo for no reason, that wouldn't make sense. I dislike him for the fact that I feel he has had alot of very, very gifted players and not done enough with them. People may use the arguement that great players don't make a great team, but I think a great coach can make great players into a great team, Carlo hasn't done this, so I don't consider him a great coach. It's not just at Milan, his record at Juve was hardly tremendous.
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post Nov 5 2008, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 6 2008, 03:04 AM) *
He does get some credit for things, such as.. selecting Pippo in the starting lineup in Athens.

Um, he actually wanted Gilardino. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) It was Mr. B who wanted and insisted to play Inzaghi. At least that's the version of the story I heard right after our CL win in Athens.
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post Nov 5 2008, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 5 2008, 10:10 PM) *
Um, he actually wanted Gilardino. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) It was Mr. B who wanted and insisted to play Inzaghi. At least that's the version of the story I heard right after our CL win in Athens.

If that's the case, then the list of things I can praise him for is getting really short. Err.. he didn't get us relegated? I suppose that's a good thing.
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post Nov 5 2008, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 6 2008, 03:14 AM) *
If that's the case, then the list of things I can praise him for is getting really short. Err.. he didn't get us relegated? I suppose that's a good thing.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) You really don't like him too much, huh, Kurt?
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post Nov 5 2008, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 5 2008, 10:17 PM) *
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) You really don't like him too much, huh, Kurt?

Don't have an opinion on him as a person, but as a coach I think he's below average at best.
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post Nov 5 2008, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 6 2008, 03:21 AM) *
Don't have an opinion on him as a person, but as a coach I think he's below average at best.

People like to say he's won the world with AC Milan. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Scudetto, Champion Leagues, World Club Cups, Super Cups, and what not. And he's not that bad a tactician, either. It's just his man management skills that give me the creeps, however.
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post Nov 5 2008, 11:39 PM
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Actually, I think it was the other way around in Athens, acid. Mr. B. wanted Gila and Carletto insisted on Pippo.

In any event, it's nice to get explanations for the various opinions held without the 'he sucks' or 'he's perfect' rhetoric muddying the picture.

Thanks, guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 5 2008, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 6 2008, 03:39 AM) *
Actually, I think it was the other way around in Athens, acid. Mr. B. wanted Gila and Carletto insisted on Pippo.

That's why I said version. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) As there are two different versions floating around the news outlets. I can vividly recall Berlusconi coming out and saying that he insisted on Inzaghi, hours after our win. But I know better than to trust Mr. B in any case, let alone this. It could very well be loop-sided for all I know. He's the Presidente, not many people can argue with him.

QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 6 2008, 03:39 AM) *
In any event, it's nice to get explanations for the various opinions held without the 'he sucks' or 'he's perfect' rhetoric muddying the picture.

Exactly. I wholeheartedly believe that no one sucks completely (unless it's Moratti), and no one's completely perfect (unless it's Paolo we're talking about). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Everyone's got strong and weak points, and they're there to be celebrated.

QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 6 2008, 03:39 AM) *
Thanks, guys.

Anytime. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Besides as long as Carlo's the coach, I'll be behind him. He still heads my club!
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