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post Sep 11 2008, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 11 2008, 03:24 AM) *
yoann played really gud for france i read on goal here is what they wrote
Yoann Gourcuff 8: The pick of the French side. Despite only having played around a minute of international football previously, the young AC Milan midfielder, who is on loan at Bordeaux, commanded the match and was instrumental in France's best moves.


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That's nice to hear. as soon as he gains confidence, I will be the first one to want him back. I keep reminding myself the fact that Zidane was completely unknown for the world at 22. some players mature a bit late compared to others. maybe Yoann is one of them? one thing is sure, the talent is there.

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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Sep 11 2008, 05:35 AM) *
Yep!

It's not really congratulations Kurt and I are looking for though just a subtle they did quite well there in your minds. Instead of saying they just beat a team that no one's beat in there stadium before 4-1, a 19-year old just got a hat-trick but no he's overrated, I mean as I've just been told if it was Pato who got 3 tonight, well...
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This parts for zd guy: It's an example, I haven't done it because I hate Pato, it's because he's 19 as is Walcott and he plays for Milan, no need to reply in a huff...

There's a thin line between "overrated" and "not world class yet". I still think neither Pato nor Walcott, Bojan, etc are overrated. English is not my mother tongue maybe I have a wrong definition of overrated in my mind... I still think those who show such promise at such young age should be labeled anything but overrated!

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As for England I think this is Capello's magic. for some reasons players feel confident under him. now this 1-4 win against "Croatia" at their own stadium will boost England's confidence so much that it'll be hard to stop them from now on. England never lacked quality (not that much to fail to qualify for the Euros at least) it was just a psychological problem and Capello was the man for the job. good choice by three lions' football federation!

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Brazil 0-0 Bolivia?

Oh god. someone sack Dunga (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Sep 11 2008, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Sep 11 2008, 09:00 AM) *
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That's nice to hear. as soon as he gains confidence, I will be the first one to want him back. I keep reminding myself the fact that Zidane was completely unknown for the world at 22. some players mature a bit late compared to others. maybe Yoann is one of them? one thing is sure, the talent is there.

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There's a thin line between "overrated" and "not world class yet". I still think neither Pato nor Walcott, Bojan, etc are overrated. English is not my mother tongue maybe I have a wrong definition of overrated in my mind... I still think those who show such promise at such young age should be labeled anything but overrated!

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As for England I think this is Capello's magic. for some reasons players feel confident under him. now this 1-4 win against "Croatia" at their own stadium will boost England's confidence so much that it'll be hard to stop them from now on. England never lacked quality (not that much to fail to qualify for the Euros at least) it was just a psychological problem and Capello was the man for the job. good choice by three lions' football federation!

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Brazil 0-0 Bolivia?


Oh god. someone sack Dunga (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Is it possible to fail to qualify for the world cup?!?!? this is what? 2 draws and a loss?
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post Sep 11 2008, 05:29 PM
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It's great to see Gourcuff getting a full 90 minutes! Well, Flamini replaced him in the 90' min, so close enough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I really hope he comes back.

By the way, France lined up with this lineup yesterday

Mandanda, Sagna, Gallas, Abidal, Clichy, Gourcuff, Toulalan, Diarra, Govou, Benzema, Henry

Interesting that Mexes has been dropped for Abidal at CB =/
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post Sep 11 2008, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE (Habitant @ Sep 11 2008, 08:13 PM) *
Is it possible to fail to qualify for the world cup?!?!? this is what? 2 draws and a loss?

Fail to qualify? Brazil? No thank you, I won't bet my house on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Either way it's not impossible, but if it happens I'd really fear for my life if I were Dunga. God, I funking hate stubborn coaches, who take teams, clubs, and entire nations down with their stupidity.
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Sep 11 2008, 10:00 AM) *
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That's nice to hear. as soon as he gains confidence, I will be the first one to want him back. I keep reminding myself the fact that Zidane was completely unknown for the world at 22. some players mature a bit late compared to others. maybe Yoann is one of them? one thing is sure, the talent is there.


dont worry at least in this case it isnt a co-ownership. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Sep 11 2008, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Sep 11 2008, 10:00 AM) *
There's a thin line between "overrated" and "not world class yet". I still think neither Pato nor Walcott, Bojan, etc are overrated. English is not my mother tongue maybe I have a wrong definition of overrated in my mind... I still think those who show such promise at such young age should be labeled anything but overrated!

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

As for England I think this is Capello's magic. for some reasons players feel confident under him. now this 1-4 win against "Croatia" at their own stadium will boost England's confidence so much that it'll be hard to stop them from now on. England never lacked quality (not that much to fail to qualify for the Euros at least) it was just a psychological problem and Capello was the man for the job. good choice by three lions' football federation!
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Brazil 0-0 Bolivia?

Oh god. someone sack Dunga (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Yeah, I sort of agree. I think players are often said to be over-rated when a team pays £20m for them when they're still young, but it's not really their fault how much a team buys them for I suppose. I hope Theo loses his over-rated tag in England though, not many people, including myself, even wanted him in the squad since his EPL record is poor, but anybody that scores a hat-trick at international level is surely never a bad thing.

I think we have some great players, but unfortunately thats all they are, great players. What England needs is a great team! Though some of our 'overhyped' and 'overrated' players were superb last night. Ashley Cole and Wayne Rooney inparticular had superb games. Capello, in my opinion, didn't do much tactically, he used common sense. He allowed our players to play like they do in the EPL, we played solid defensively, quick tempo and closed them down, it worked a treat. Keep it up Fabio!

Brazil aren't doing too well, I think it's a bit close for comfort for them!

SOUTH AMERICAN QUALIFYING (after 8 games)
Paraguay 17
Brazil 13
Argentina 13
Chile 13
Uruguay 12
Colombia 10
Ecuador 9
Venezuela 7
Peru 7
Bolivia 5
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post Sep 11 2008, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE (Habitant @ Sep 11 2008, 06:43 PM) *
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Is it possible to fail to qualify for the world cup?!?!? this is what? 2 draws and a loss?


No, Brazil will qualify 99.99%. they're already level with the Argies at 2nd place, which is not bad at all. thing is, Dunga is small! Brazil needs a coach for 2010 WC... even the thought of Dunga as Brazil's coach in 2010 makes me giggle.

QUOTE (Habitant @ Sep 11 2008, 09:36 PM) *
dont worry at least in this case it isnt a co-ownership. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


I hope there's not a right to buy either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 11 2008, 10:04 PM) *
Brazil aren't doing too well, I think it's a bit close for comfort for them!

SOUTH AMERICAN QUALIFYING (after 8 games)
Paraguay 17
Brazil 13
Argentina 13


Do you know how many games each team has to play?
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Sep 11 2008, 08:24 PM) *
No, Brazil will qualify 99.99%. they're already level with the Argies at 2nd place, which is not bad at all. thing is, Dunga is small! Brazil needs a coach for 2010 WC... even the thought of Dunga as Brazil's coach in 2010 makes me giggle.



I hope there's not a right to buy either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)



Do you know how many games each team has to play?

i've checked, they've played around 1/3 of the toal games. everyone plays each other twice.
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South American qualifying plays 18 games, The top 4 go straight into the World Cup, the 5th place team has a play off with somebody from the Asian regions I believe.
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QUOTE (Habitant @ Sep 12 2008, 12:01 AM) *
i've checked, they've played around 1/3 of the toal games. everyone plays each other twice.



QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 12 2008, 12:43 AM) *
South American qualifying plays 18 games, The top 4 go straight into the World Cup, the 5th place team has a play off with somebody from the Asian regions I believe.



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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 12 2008, 12:13 AM) *
South American qualifying plays 18 games, The top 4 go straight into the World Cup, the 5th place team has a play off with somebody from the Asian regions I believe.


Thanks .. And yes, the 5th placed teams plays one from the Asian continent .. Which in most cases means an easy passage, unless they meet one f the Asian giants then its a close call.
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The amazing Carlos Dunga did something noteworthy with his recent national team call ups. The former Roma and now Inter winger MANCINI has received his first Brazilian cap.

now i have watched mancini play for a while now at a very high level..and in all honesty always wondered in the back of my head why it was he's never been called up..interesting..for all his tactical ineptitude, i think one thing i do like Dunga for is giving almost any Brazilian with potential a call-up to the national team.

still waiting to see whether he'll get smart and select Amauri..Ederson (Lyon)
- Ederson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As_1s7CfnEc

1. thoughts on Mancini?
2. any other Brazilian u can think of that's been short changed by the Selecao (past or present)?
- one name from the past that comes to mind instantly is Juninho Pernambucano. never got to show his master class for the Selecao like i would have wished..also Fenerbache's Alex Souza and Deivid seem quality as well..
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This is European Championships news, but didn't want to make a whole new thread just for this so I'll put it here.

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Uefa to expand Euro Championship

The European Championship is set to be expanded to feature 24 teams from 2016 instead of the current 16, according to Franz Beckenbauer.

A Uefa executive committee meeting on Thursday discussed the issue and will rubber-stamp the decision on Friday.

"Yes for sure it's going to be 24 teams," said Beckenbauer, who is vice-chairman of Uefa's development and technical assistance committee.

"The European Championships will not lose any quality by that."

Former German international Beckenbauer is not a Uefa executive committee member but is a European Fifa executive member who sits in on the meetings as a non-voting observer.

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Nobody expects Uefa to just pull the plug on Poland and Ukraine hosting Euro 2012

The proposal to expand the competition was put forward by the Scottish Football Association and Football Association of Ireland last year.

The new format will mean fewer countries will have the capacity to host the tournament but it is believed the 53 member nations are unanimously in favour of the change.

"I think the expansion will be better for the game - more teams will have the chance of qualifying and the excitement of the groups will go on for longer," said Scottish FA chief executive Gordon Smith.

"It is disappointing in that it means we will not be able to stage the tournament in the future, and we recognise that will be the case.

"It was a trade-off between trying to stage it or open up the qualification process and we have decided to look at something that helps everybody."

Spain emerged victorious at Euro 2008 earlier this year at a tournament where there was no presence from the home nations.

The expanded version should mean it is easier for Scotland and other home nations to qualify but Smith added: "It will make it easier for other countries such as England who failed to qualify for Euro 2008.

"We didn't do it specifically for that purpose however."

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I like the Scottish guys shot at England at the end. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I'd be against this personally, I think UEFA only has just over 50 teams, so nearly half would be qualifying. And with all due respect to about 10-12 of these teams, they're pretty much there to make up the numbers. There may as well be no qualifying anymore and justhave a tournement with everyone!

Even though England failed to make the last one, I'm not happy with this expansion, though I do still think there will be 24 worthy sides making the tournement, there won't be many teams you can just go and expect to beat comfortably. Except Scotland and Wales.

I had noticed one thing though:
1978 Ingerland fail to qualify for World Cup
1982 Word Cup expanded to 24 teams

1994 Ingerland fail to qualify for World Cup
1998 Word Cup expanded to 32 teams

2008 Ingerland fail to qualify for European Championships
2016 European Championships expanded to 24 teams

The sport revolves around us. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 26 2008, 02:05 PM) *
I had noticed one thing though:
1978 Ingerland fail to qualify for World Cup
1982 Word Cup expanded to 24 teams

1994 Ingerland fail to qualify for World Cup
1998 Word Cup expanded to 32 teams

2008 Ingerland fail to qualify for European Championships
2016 European Championships expanded to 24 teams

The sport revolves around us.

What if Ingerland fail to qualify for the 2016 Euros (with all it's 24 spots and such)? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 26 2008, 08:05 PM) *
What if Ingerland fail to qualify for the 2016 Euros (with all it's 24 spots and such)? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Then we may as well not bother playing football, we'd be an embarassment and a disgrace and will be laughed at by everyone. Also known as: Being Scotland.
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