After not getting Kurt vs R7 off the ground, I've finally found myself a new show: Drucurl vs Giancarlo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Keep going guys, it's all good listening to your arguments and counterarguments; as long as you keep it civil, there should be no problem.

PS. Maybe Ronaldo's done for, but I haven't seen a striker more lethal than him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Don't think I will too.

I said nothing about the result. I thought Alves was totally absent in the match and was quite poor actually.

Yes but we won the TIM trophy, and the Trofeo Berlusconi. The Chelsea game was a fluke considered we played with Andrea Pirlo and Ambrosini as strikers, and that was before quite a bit of our transfers concluded. Secondly, most of our new players were not playing. We played Juventus a full 90.

You have a selective mind. Man oh man, if you were in charge, we'd be in the Serie C playing Cremonese every season lol.



Sobis is good in tight spaces? Why do you insist on making things up like this? Sobis has no place in the Milan squad. Italy is too defensive for him. Just like I would be against Milan getting... say... Robinho.

This post has been edited by Giancarlo: Aug 27 2008, 08:53 PM

Billy has a point. I'd said this before, the only worrying thing about Sheva's return is that he might disrupt Pato's progress. especially we all know Carlo prefers an old and proved player in the form of Sheva over a young and inexperienced one any day of the week (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I'd be really pissed off if that happened.

There is way too much pressure on him to not use Pato... besides that I'm sure we can play with two strikers... Pato and Sheva...

I'm not so sure about that. When Pato was cleared to play for Milan in January, there wasn't much competition, Ronaldo got injured and Pippo was already out, while Gila has pretty much been dropped. As soon as Pippo recovered from injury, however, he dropped Pato in order to field Pippo, so I think Zd has a point..

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Aug 27 2008, 09:17 PM

I think Pato will play... don't worry... I'm confident about that... I think he will play enough... I'm sure Ancelotti has a place for him...

This post has been edited by Giancarlo: Aug 27 2008, 09:20 PM

You said that milan didn't lose most of our pre-season games. Winning a 45-min/game tournament like the TIM CUP to me doesn't count. In the good old days we never took this tournament seriously and let Inter have it. Losing 5-0 to Chel$ki is a fluke? Hardly likely...I know we weren't up there offensively but surely conceeding 5 goals is a bit worrysome no? Chel$ki played with NEW players AND a new coach/system.

You are TOTALLY right about the Trofeo Berlusconi though it was a full 09 min....my bad



I'm not making it up Dunga alluded to this prior to dropping Pato (not that I agree that Pato should be dropped mind you)

And lolzzzz Robinho is one of the brightest stars in world football. That you are against him speaks volumes to me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

We won other games. It's a fluke dude. We were missing most of our players.

PLEASE LOOK AT THE FACTS. We played as Pirlo and Ambrosini as strikers so don't even think about sitting here for a minute telling me it wasn't.



Dunga is an idiot. He dropped a great player for a no name.

Yeah, that's what I meant. but there's a difference now. Pato is well known as a great potential all over the world! besides some of the San Siro crowds who are against Sheva's return (or want to see Pato play as much as I do!) will surely put Carlo under pressure to field Pato. I can already hear all the jeers and boos when Carlo plays with Christmas tree with Sheva at the top of it! perhaps I shouldn't be worried that much.

+1. Carlo will bench anyone this side of Maldini. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) He likes to keep things under his control. Good, bad, or ugly, that depends on who's talking and how much of a fan of Carlo that guy is. I personally feel it may have helped sometimes in keeping a grip over the squad, but has also hurt is with points and losses.

Agreed, acid. The dropping of Pato didn't help at all towards the end of last season. We had 4th in our own hands and threw it away.. all with Pato on the bench. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Well Inzaghi was in great form at that time... and he is a better finisher than Pato... but Pato did come on more as a substitute.

very very true

Three points would have made the day. Two points, god damn it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Fiorentina didn't finish 4th. Milan finished 5th, and in the process became a joke of the whole of Europe. Remember how they gave us a chance by losing the third last match, and we crapped everything inside out by losing to Napoli - the same Napoli we toasted 5-2 when R99 was on).

And we'd still have gotten the same players if we qualified: Sheva, Ronaldinho, even Flamini. Then what? Abbiati and Borriello, and some new signings from South America. Who knows? Even someone better than these guys, as players don't want to risk losing out one year of CL if they are good enough and can help it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) That's just how top players of today are.

Half of our season was lost when we signed Pato (only Pato) last summer. Half of it was lost because of Carlo's stupidity (or stubbornness, if that's too hard a word). And those funking injuries to Ronaldo never helped things one wee bit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) I can already sense third (or even second place) had he stayed fit. Last I calculated, we lost at least 19 points losing/drawing twice (both home and away) to teams like Atlanta and friends. And going down to Juve and Roma 3-2.


I can recall more than one occasion where he benched him and we lost points. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) With Inzaghi on. Who says we can't play with two strikers, or a more offensive game? And that too against teams half our stature. It's not like we were playing inter, Juve, Roma or Fiorentina. A win there would never have hurt. I'd take those 2,3 points eyes closed.

Too bad our defensive coach thinks otherwise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I hope he changes a bit this season. Even Galliani hinted in his last interview that he's got a team setup to win the league, and there should be no excuses from Carlo. Or else...

Trust me he'll change. Galliani gave him a warning right there to change, or be gone. There is NO excuse for the amount of quality players we brought in. Now... I like Ancelotti, and have defended him on countless times but I want to see him be more adventurous...

We did see the reshuffling of our team. Of course many legends are staying, but we brought in many new talents. I'd like to see Cardacio come on as a sub, instead of say Brocchi.