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kurtsimonw
post Aug 10 2008, 12:08 AM
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Well, besides todays result, disasterous times for Man City. Shinawatra has had his assets in Thialand frozen, and City are now unable to pay off the necessary installments for Bojinov, Petrov and Elano. This is forcing him to sell Vedran Corluka and Stephen Ireland against the wishes of manager Mark Hughes, rumour is that Hughes may walk out on City before even taking charge of an EPL game with the club.

Players they they have "bought" but can't afford to pay the remaining installments for will have to be sold as it would be in fact illegal to keep them. They're quickly looking like the new Leeds. The only good thing for them is that the tv money comes in next week, so that should help them a little, but it seems that that will be just delaying the inevitable. A real shame, they were a decent club before he decided to buy and ruin them.
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post Aug 10 2008, 08:04 AM
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Liverpool Set To Make £12m Barry Bid

We want £18m and have rejected offers of £10m, £12m & £15m.. so I don't see why we'd accept £12m, but we may as I think MON has got to the point where he just wants Barry out. Reasoning behind the low bid is that Hicks and Gillett are sick and tired of Benitez asking for money all the time and they are as infuriated as Villa at Benitez at his handling of this whole saga. Won't be long until he gets the sack.

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post Aug 10 2008, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 10 2008, 01:34 PM) *
Won't be long until he gets the sack.

But that is only if he doesn't churn out results and, ultimately, trophies.
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post Aug 10 2008, 05:09 PM
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Community Shield Result
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post Aug 10 2008, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 9 2008, 11:08 PM) *
Well, besides todays result, disasterous times for Man City. Shinawatra has had his assets in Thialand frozen, and City are now unable to pay off the necessary installments for Bojinov, Petrov and Elano. This is forcing him to sell Vedran Corluka and Stephen Ireland against the wishes of manager Mark Hughes, rumour is that Hughes may walk out on City before even taking charge of an EPL game with the club.

Players they they have "bought" but can't afford to pay the remaining installments for will have to be sold as it would be in fact illegal to keep them. They're quickly looking like the new Leeds. The only good thing for them is that the tv money comes in next week, so that should help them a little, but it seems that that will be just delaying the inevitable. A real shame, they were a decent club before he decided to buy and ruin them.


I just thought of something... maybe Milan could get Jo if they are forced to sell him... because Jo was the big name transfer that cost what... 20 million Euros? The only way they could afford that transfer is by Shinawatra's fortune.

I thought Shinawatra had big dreams for the club, but his past caught up with him... I thought Man City was pretty decent too.

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post Aug 11 2008, 05:40 AM
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"I'm sorry to say this, as a life long fan and - for the last few (for me at least) unforgettable months - employee, MCFC as we know it is finished. Here are the FACTS, for those who really want to know. Thaksin is, as of midlnight 10th August, 2008, an international fugitive.

He now has to be found guilty of corruption in Thailand in his absense, offering no defence. Extradition requests will surely follow. The PL will then have to find him short of the fit and proper ownership rules (and believe me, the pressure for that from fellow 'members' has been growing since June).

Thaksin is trying to palm off City onto whoever will now take it, an insolvent mess of a business, completely incapable of sustaining itself. The truth is that the only interested party (until recently) - Wardle - is not now able to bail City out now , he cant come close on his own and no partners have been found. The wage bioll and committments due on the last 2 years' transfers have spiralled out of control.

The Corluka affair is the last straw - I personally worked on the deal and can assure anyone interested that he has already been transferred to Spurs. Spurs have this evening started legal action, and he will be barred from playing for City following an injunction in the courts tomorrow.

Personally I expect Hughes to then resign on principal (he has no choice now, he is on record as saying that he will have final say on all transfers). Many wont believe any of this, but a few will.

I am very close to this situation (readers will never know who I am or how close - a few would know my name but it isnt appropriate to for me to come 'out') - trust me, I am close enough to know what has happeneded in the last fortnight, I am pissed off with it (as a fan, and as someone who has worked hard for the club durinig the ast 18 months or so) and it must be said, a little drunk.

I am posting this message on a few sites - apologies for those that keep reading it, but I want City fans to know what is happening. The sad truth is we are finished, and that as a result, the PL will be facing its biggest challenge since inception within 2 weeks of now."


I don't like the club, and hiave disliked it even more since he took over. But I feel for the fans. I really do.
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post Aug 11 2008, 05:45 AM
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I have nothing against ManC. I even liked them to be honest. But this really looks bad. I don't like clubs, going out due to reasons out of their control. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This is worse than Leeds. Leeds gambled on their transfers right? These guys, are going out for no fault of their own. Just that their owner was a crook.
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post Aug 11 2008, 05:54 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 11 2008, 05:45 AM) *
I have nothing against ManC. I even liked them to be honest. But this really looks bad. I don't like clubs, going out due to reasons out of their control. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This is worse than Leeds. Leeds gambled on their transfers right? These guys, are going out for no fault of their own. Just that their owner was a crook.

Leeds just spent way too much and couldn't cope with the payments. They're the best team in League 1 by a long way now and will be back in the Championship next season. But Man City.. it does look bad, really bad. I do think it'll end up worse than Leeds to be honest. I don't see why they sold it to a guy like Shinawatra with the track record he had anyways, insane to do such a thing. Poor Citeh.

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post Aug 11 2008, 06:33 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 11 2008, 05:54 AM) *
Leeds just spent way too much and couldn't cope with the payments. They're the best team in League 1 by a long way now and will be back in the Championship next season. But Man City.. it does look bad, really bad. I do think it'll end up worse than Leeds to be honest. I don't see why they sold it to a guy like Shinawatra with the track record he had anyways, insane to do such a thing. Poor Citeh.


Just as Man City did... Elano, Jo... all these players... they were spending huge amounts of cash and without Thatskin's money it could go all to hell. They have to find another investor, or they'll be like Leeds. Or could end up in the amateur league like Messina.

Well Milan should look at Jo because City will liquidate players and assets now. And end up collapsed.

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Milan should look at quite a few players from City. Micah Richards, is one of the more promising English talents, and we haven't had an Englishman at Milan since Hately. I'm not even sure he's English. He might be a Scot (therefore British..right kurtie?).
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post Aug 11 2008, 06:47 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 11 2008, 05:44 AM) *
Milan should look at quite a few players from City. Micah Richards, is one of the more promising English talents, and we haven't had an Englishman at Milan since Hately. I'm not even sure he's English. He might be a Scot (therefore British..right kurtie?).


Indeed.

I still feel kinda bad for them though. But what a stupid shopping spree they did. You need to spend modestly and balance the books... now they'll be forced to sell these players at whatever fee another teams wants. And you know what Milan will demand they sell for... peanuts.
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post Aug 11 2008, 07:13 AM
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It was not a stupid shopping spree. They just counted on Thaksin's money that's all. Too bad for them. I hope DIC or Soros buy these guys. It's a good team with a good coach.

I guess this helps Newcastle and Villa and all the other teams challenging for Europe.
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post Aug 11 2008, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 11 2008, 07:13 AM) *
It was not a stupid shopping spree. They just counted on Thaksin's money that's all. Too bad for them. I hope DIC or Soros buy these guys. It's a good team with a good coach.

I guess this helps Newcastle and Villa and all the other teams challenging for Europe.

You used Newcastle and other in the same sentence when referring to teams challenging for Europe, this suggests that you think Newcastle are going to do well.. are you drunk, Jack? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Yes, all City did was spend money they thought they had, Leeds spent money they didn't have. But no City are in the same boat as they no longer have the money they thought they had. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 11 2008, 06:13 AM) *
It was not a stupid shopping spree. They just counted on Thaksin's money that's all. Too bad for them. I hope DIC or Soros buy these guys. It's a good team with a good coach.

I guess this helps Newcastle and Villa and all the other teams challenging for Europe.


Yeah, but they should have been a tad bit more modest... I hope someone does buy them out... and helps with their debt situation.
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And I think Jo is more likely to go to Manchester United than Milan. He's got his work permit and everything and United do need a striker.

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You used Newcastle and other in the same sentence when referring to teams challenging for Europe, this suggests that you think Newcastle are going to do well.. are you drunk, Jack? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


So early in the day?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Of course (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) But that had nothing to do with this. Everton, Villa, Spurs and Newcastle would challenge I guess. With Manchester City down, I don't see too much competition from elsewhere for these clubs. Of course Hull City would kick Villa's @$$ and give Newcastle some point gain. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Heheh..poor Hull City...I'm supporting them, but the newly promoted Premier League team, already lost 4-0 to Crewe I think.

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