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 Jul 26 2008, 01:44 PM
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Prima Squadra  Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660  |
Maradona Best Ever, Ronaldo Close Second - Maldini
Not sure I'd disagree with that. At least he didn't say Pele! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thanks for the translation, R7. |
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Jul 26 2008, 01:51 PM
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Token Girl  Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Thanks for posting that link, agenth!
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Jul 26 2008, 03:10 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 26 2008, 03:44 PM)  Maradona Best Ever, Ronaldo Close Second - Maldini Not sure I'd disagree with that. At least he didn't say Pele! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thanks for the translation, R7. Uw ... And he didn't say Pele, because he didn't face Pele (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Jul 26 2008, 08:07 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 3,371 Joined: 30-October 05 Member No.: 782 |
Pele is overrated anyway...
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Jul 26 2008, 08:36 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jul 27 2008, 12:07 AM) Pele is overrated anyway... Irrespective of what you think of Pele the person, he was half a decent player on the pitch. Gotta give him that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Watch some of his compilations and free kicks. I once saw a free kick goal that went around the wall and inside, all the time staying low. Will probably dig a video if I can find, but that was pure magic. Stuff of dreams. Anyway, it's not even a question: Paolo is the best footballer of all time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Guys like Pele, Maradona, George Best should consider themselves lucky, and be proud to have seen him play. Playing and managing himself (so well) for a quarter of a century in top flight football, and the toughest (most technical) league is what mortals only dream of. And those three can't even dream that, what with all drug and scandals. All hail the Age of Maldini. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Ha! |
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Jul 27 2008, 08:06 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (acid911 @ Jul 26 2008, 08:36 PM) Irrespective of what you think of Pele the person, he was half a decent player on the pitch. Gotta give him that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Watch some of his compilations and free kicks. I once saw a free kick goal that went around the wall and inside, all the time staying low. Will probably dig a video if I can find, but that was pure magic. Stuff of dreams. Anyway, it's not even a question: Paolo is the best footballer of all time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Guys like Pele, Maradona, George Best should consider themselves lucky, and be proud to have seen him play. Playing and managing himself (so well) for a quarter of a century in top flight football, and the toughest (most technical) league is what mortals only dream of. And those three can't even dream that, what with all drug and scandals. All hail the Age of Maldini. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Ha! Youtube can make Frank Lampard look like Zico and Rooney like Maradona so... |
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Jul 27 2008, 08:21 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 28 2008, 12:06 AM) Youtube can make Frank Lampard look like Zico and Rooney like Maradona so... True. But then again, if he's less than 10% of the player they show him up to be, he was more than decent. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I'm not his biggest fan, by any means, nor do I think of him as the absolute best, but got to give credit where credit is due. |
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Jul 27 2008, 09:50 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (acid911 @ Jul 27 2008, 07:21 PM) True. But then again, if he's less than 10% of the player they show him up to be, he was more than decent. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I'm not his biggest fan, by any means, nor do I think of him as the absolute best, but got to give credit where credit is due. Well he was a great player in his time, but I wouldn't go as far as saying he's the best ever, I don't even think he's the best Brazilian to ever play the game so the best ever would be stretching it |
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Jul 27 2008, 10:52 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Helpers Posts: 6,764 Joined: 30-October 05 From: Israel Member No.: 787 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 27 2008, 11:50 PM) Well he was a great player in his time, but I wouldn't go as far as saying he's the best ever, I don't even think he's the best Brazilian to ever play the game so the best ever would be stretching it Well, you or many others, haven't seen Pele enough or at his best to determine that. Most of his prime wasn't even televised |
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Jul 27 2008, 10:55 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (misha @ Jul 27 2008, 09:52 PM) Well, you or many others, haven't seen Pele enough or at his best to determine that. Most of his prime wasn't even televised That's true also, but I've seen some tapes of him, and I never said that he wasn't great, but I still wouldn't go as far as saying he's the best to have ever played the game |
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Jul 27 2008, 11:07 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Helpers Posts: 6,764 Joined: 30-October 05 From: Israel Member No.: 787 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 28 2008, 12:55 AM) That's true also, but I've seen some tapes of him, and I never said that he wasn't great, but I still wouldn't go as far as saying he's the best to have ever played the game I also watched some tapes and it's not enough. We didn't really saw his best and all aspects of his game like we saw other stars of our time and that's why I don't like to speculate who was the best ever... Besides,you can't compare players from different periods because the game changed so much. You never know what he would be able to do in the today's game. Maybe for example if Ronaldo was playing back then people would also question him and so on... This post has been edited by misha: Jul 27 2008, 11:14 PM |
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Jul 27 2008, 11:12 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (misha @ Jul 27 2008, 10:07 PM) I also watched some tapes and it's not enough. We didn't really saw his best and all aspects of his game like we saw other stars of our time and that's why I don't like to speculate who was the best ever... Besides,you can't compare players from different periods because the game changed so much. You never know what he would be able to do in the today's game. Maybe for example if Ronaldo was playing back there people would also question him and so on... 100% agreed on that. I was looking through another forum the other day and there was this whole argument about how the players of back then wouldn't make it in today's football and someone posted that Pele would be a player struggling in a Serie B team in today's game. And everyone just literally jumped on him. But fact is we can't find that out for sure, I think he was exagerating a bit but still he might have a point, who knows? This post has been edited by han2503: Jul 27 2008, 11:16 PM |
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Jul 27 2008, 11:17 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 28 2008, 02:55 AM) That's true also, but I've seen some tapes of him, and I never said that he wasn't great, but I still wouldn't go as far as saying he's the best to have ever played the game Being great automatically puts you in good company, when it comes to football. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Like I said, not the best ever, but darn close. You only get to gauge a player if you play against him. Like Paolo did with both Maradona and Ronaldo. It is only then you can tell how he moves, plays, thinks, and behaves both on and off the pitch. The cameras only show the action with the ball - not what's happening in the stadium. Then again, greatness is a subjective thing. FACT. |
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Jul 27 2008, 11:26 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Helpers Posts: 6,764 Joined: 30-October 05 From: Israel Member No.: 787 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 28 2008, 01:12 AM) 100% agreed on that. I was looking through another forum the other day and there was this whole argument about how the players of back then wouldn't make it in today's football and someone posted that Pele would be a player struggling in a Serie B team in today's game. And everyone just literally jumped on him. But fact is we can't find that out for sure, I think he was exagerating a bit but still he might have a point, who knows? Yep. Of course he was exaggerating. I think Pele would be a great player today (everybody agrees he had a big talent) but the question is: how big? To that we can't answer. |
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Jul 27 2008, 11:28 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (misha @ Jul 27 2008, 10:26 PM) Yep. Of course he was exaggerating. I think Pele would be a great player today (everybody agrees he had a big talent) but the question is: how big? To that we can't answer. Agreed. Different times, different speed to the game, different way of playing it so no one can really say |
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