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Jul 10 2008, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Jul 10 2008, 05:34 PM) In defence of Wenger..I assume most of the animosity you feel for the guy comes from his comments about Milan, no? Not for me. The thing that annoys me with him is how - if you go buy what he says - every single decision in football history has gone against Arsenal. If one of his players makes a bad foul or does a clear handball that isn't given, all you ever hear is "I didn't see it". If that happens to his teams, the player fouling the Arsenal player is an "Animal" and the handball thing means the refs are against him. That's what gets me with Wenger. QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jul 10 2008, 05:45 PM) Yep, and did Blatter complain about Milan 'treating Sheva like a slave', of course not, he wouldn't want a great player to join the EPL. Anyways. Sidwell officially signed with Villa today for £5m, he looked genuinly happy/releived that he is here. We had a friendly in Switzerland tonight, we beat FC Wil 1900 6-0 with Harewood (2), Carew, Delfouneso, Maloney & Routledge getting the goals. Delfouneso is one that excites me, has Gabby like pace, but great upperbody strength and finishes very well. Looks like our youth academy coaches are doing their job.
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Jul 10 2008, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 10 2008, 08:00 PM) Not for me. The thing that annoys me with him is how - if you go buy what he says - every single decision in football history has gone against Arsenal. If one of his players makes a bad foul or does a clear handball that isn't given, all you ever hear is "I didn't see it". If that happens to his teams, the player fouling the Arsenal player is an "Animal" and the handball thing means the refs are against him. That's what gets me with Wenger. The thing is, Wenger is shielding his own players and allowing the blame to fall on him, but that doesn't mean he don't take action against the players off the pitch. Remember the 99-01 period when we were picking up cards and suspensions left right and center and Wenger spammed "I didn't see it" all over the place? Well, a few years later Arsenal tops the fair play league. And I reckon Mourinho and Ferguson are worse by far.
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Jul 10 2008, 08:15 PM
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Speaking as someone who generally likes very little at all having to do with the English league, I can say that I find good and bad things about Wenger.
The good: he's a good coach for building a team that plays flowing, attractive football. He's got a good eye for talent and is good at nurturing that talent.
The bad: he never sees when his players are naughty, I'll freely admit that I REALLY didn't appreciate the nasty dig at Milan, and, well, there are times when he reminds me a little TOO much of Raymond Domenech.
Would the fish doll have him over for milk and cookies? Probably so.
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Jul 10 2008, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 10 2008, 12:14 PM) Sepp Blatter has once again showed his love towards the Premier League. He's comparing what United are doing with Ronaldo as 'slavery' and that if a player wants to leave, you must let him go. That statement is a joke if it was the other way around he'd be putting transfer sanctions on United and fining them for 'tapping him up'...
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Jul 10 2008, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 10 2008, 08:04 PM) Ronaldo has now agreed with Blatter that players are treated like slaves nowadays. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Teams should start signing players to 1-year contracts from now on, the only reason big contracts are made is for a player to have a protection policy in case he gets injured. I'm starting to wish I was a slave, earning £120k a week don't sound all that bad. The guys a clown 3 years ago Blatter said this... Fifa president Sepp Blatter wants to see a situation where clubs are suspended from buying players during the transfer window. "I think that is a good idea," said Blatter. "We need more discipline and more respect for the regulations." Now he says what he has today... Oh and for the source of that quote for disbelievers: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4599103.stm
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Jul 10 2008, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jul 10 2008, 08:43 PM) How could Milan treat Sheva like a slave when we let him go? Like I said we didn't say "we will let him rot in the stands". And like I say he went to an English club, and an English club is moaning about the same thing! Double standards in my eyes (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What? I have to be honest and say I'm not sure what you're getting at. Who said Milan treated Sheva like a slave? What does that even have to do with it? Which English club is moaning? The only person moaning at the moment is Blatter. But Blatter does have double standards, when Milan refused to sell Shave to Chelsea at first, did Blatter complain? Of course he didn't, because he would be happy to see Sheva stay away from the EPL. But he soon started complaining at Man U. @Ash: Blatter is a fool. Platini is just as worse. THey let their own likes and dislikes interfere with their job, which is why they're going to ruin football.
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Jul 10 2008, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 10 2008, 08:54 PM) What? I have to be honest and say I'm not sure what you're getting at. Who said Milan treated Sheva like a slave? What does that even have to do with it? Which English club is moaning? The only person moaning at the moment is Blatter. But Blatter does have double standards, when Milan refused to sell Shave to Chelsea at first, did Blatter complain? Of course he didn't, because he would be happy to see Sheva stay away from the EPL. But he soon started complaining at Man U. @Ash: Blatter is a fool. Platini is just as worse. THey let their own likes and dislikes interfere with their job, which is why they're going to ruin football. Right then, when Roman first met Sheva he told him he wanted him to play for Chelsea(which is wrong as they should have gone through Milan first). Luckily at the time Sheva was happy at Milan and declined, even though he was offered anything he wanted. The following season they tried yet again and were told Sheva was not for sale, but being Chelsea they just ignored that. Anyway when Sheva decided he wanted to leave (even though he was under contract) I didn't hear any of the Milan management say "he will rot in the stands before signing for them" in fact Galliani tried to give him a contract equal to what Chelsea offered him and he refused. Do you see the similarities now? Or does your love of the premier league stop you? Like I said, double standards (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 10 2008, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jul 10 2008, 09:16 PM) Right then, when Roman first met Sheva he told him he wanted him to play for Chelsea(which is wrong as they should have gone through Milan first) Yes, this is also what has happened in the Ronaldo-Real Madrid saga, so I see no difference here. QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jul 10 2008, 09:16 PM) Luckily at the time Sheva was happy at Milan and declined, even though he was offered anything he wanted. The following season they tried yet again and were told Sheva was not for sale, but being Chelsea they just ignored that. Again, which is the same as Ronaldo-Real Madrid. They wanted him last year, he said he was happy at United, and they offered agains this season and United told them to F off. QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jul 10 2008, 09:16 PM) Anyway when Sheva decided he wanted to leave (even though he was under contract) I didn't hear any of the Milan management say "he will rot in the stands before signing for them" So? What does Milan not saying that and United, allegedly, saying that have to do with each other? (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jul 10 2008, 09:16 PM) Do you see the similarities now? Or does your love of the premier league stop you? Like I said, double standards (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Okay. I'm beginning to think you don't know what double standards means.. Answer me this question as you seem to have avoided it until now - WHO EXACTLY HAS DOUBLE STANDARDS? I don't see why you keep saying this double standards thing. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Hmm, my love for the EPL, or your jealousy, pick one.
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Jul 10 2008, 11:08 PM
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I don't think Sepp Blatter likes any league except perhaps for Spain. He's probably even less popular in Italy than he is in England. His comment re: Ronaldo moving to Real was out of order.
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Jul 10 2008, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 10 2008, 08:15 PM) Speaking as someone who generally likes very little at all having to do with the English league, I can say that I find good and bad things about Wenger. The good: he's a good coach for building a team that plays flowing, attractive football. He's got a good eye for talent and is good at nurturing that talent. The bad: he never sees when his players are naughty, I'll freely admit that I REALLY didn't appreciate the nasty dig at Milan, and, well, there are times when he reminds me a little TOO much of Raymond Domenech. Would the fish doll have him over for milk and cookies? Probably so. As for the bad things about him, I can only say to yo what I said to kurt. And for the Domenech bit...Wenger and Domenech are known for disliking each other to the extreme.
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Jul 11 2008, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Jul 10 2008, 08:34 PM) In defence of Wenger..I assume most of the animosity you feel for the guy comes from his comments about Milan, no? Those were indeed hasty words, but I'll give him the benefit of doubt on this one. It was a time when half our squad was linked with practically everyone and I think he did not mean it in the way the press publicised it. He has said a ot of good things about Milan as well, but like every time Wenger says something that isn't critical or complaining, then the press doesn't care. They want whinge-stories from him, nothing else. It's true, not everything he says is negative and I remember him talking nice of Milan in the past. For me, what he said about Milan was only the motive. The cause is his behavior in general. I think you like him too much and you're biased when it comes to him so you don't see somethings that I do or you don't see them as negative. I don't blame you, I'm not different. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jul 11 2008, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 10 2008, 10:03 PM) Yes, this is also what has happened in the Ronaldo-Real Madrid saga, so I see no difference here. Again, which is the same as Ronaldo-Real Madrid. They wanted him last year, he said he was happy at United, and they offered agains this season and United told them to F off. So? What does Milan not saying that and United, allegedly, saying that have to do with each other? (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Okay. I'm beginning to think you don't know what double standards means.. Answer me this question as you seem to have avoided it until now - WHO EXACTLY HAS DOUBLE STANDARDS? I don't see why you keep saying this double standards thing. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Hmm, my love for the EPL, or your jealousy, pick one. Right then seeing as you still don't understand, what i'm saying is that when Sheva wanted to leave we let him leave(even though he was under contract), yet Manu have threatened to let him rot in the stands - hence the slavery comments. The double standards come from the nauseating "Blatter hates the EPL" - yet it was an EPL club that did exactly the same thing and yet no one said anything then! I do hope you can understand that as I have put it in as simple terms as I could (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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